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    Blackbird Huge member

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    Bought a couple of Osram Brand 85/80W H4 bulbs (Made in Germany) from rallylights.com.
    At $49 shipped to CA they aren't cheap but the light is so much better than the Silverstars! Stunning difference!
    They don't have any blue tint and the color is just whiter than the standard yellowing halogen bulb.

    So far so good with the wiring, I did some sniffing around the headlights after the first few drives.
    No burning smell detected.
    Well worth the upgrade, highly recommended - just make sure your headlights are well aimed.

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    You should be careful with this lamps! It may be possible that the higher temp of the lamp destroy the mirror or case. this is all only plastic. I have had such trouble with my old Nissan. There was no problem with higher current in the cables. But the mirror was melting.
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    Yeah, see how it's all doing in another month or so, depending
    on how much night driving you do. The brighter lamps tend to
    not last nearly as long, either, simply because the filaments
    are run so much harder for the same supply voltage.
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    Just don't melt the headlight casing. They're plastic. With Phillips X-Treme Power (still 55/60), the front headlights were very warm to the touch.
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    How about installing some HIDs instead. Anyone has done it?
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    So far so good.
    We did some night driving with it and I popped up the hood right after I shut the car off to touch the headlights.
    They were warm but the kind of warm that I'd imagine it'll take to start melting stuff, and that was after ~45 mins of driving.

    The quality of the lighting has been nothing short of fantastic.
    I'll post another update in some time to let you know if things still hold up well or not, but I must say the Prius seems to be holding up just fine with these headlights and I don't expect it to change.

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    How selfish you are!

    The poor people who have to look at your 85w headlights. It is very self centered of you to FORCE people to look at your BRIGHT headlights.

    I really hate people like you who replace the 55w bulbs with what they think they should have. Fxxk the rules huh?
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    If it's well aimed (hopefully slightly lower than stock), it should be ok. I was behind a Buick Enclave. It had beautiful HIDs that were aimed perfectly (thank you GM...). No glare whatsoever even though it's an SUV and the headlights are higher up. Compare that to the Tunda with stock halogens that are aimed right into the rear view mirrors of regular cars.
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    You are so acutely correct, I feel I need sutures.
    Please add the always on foglight people to this mess.

    The continuing de-evolution of man.
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    Blackbird Huge member

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    Take a chill pill dude :rolleyes:
    The lights are well aimed, so no one gets blinded or bent outta shape other than some random forum dwellers..

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    You're sure of that, then? Or does it really matter how many people you blind in an evening...
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    Wow, you guys are some friendly bunch... :rolleyes:
    Checking the aim of headlights isn't exactly rocket science you know.
    Frankly, I don't think that you know, but it's pretty simple -
    You park the car with the front bumper just a few inches from a wall, mark the center of the beams on the wall, drive back 25' - the center of the beams should now be 2" right and 2" down from the previous location.
    This requires of course a leveled ground of about 40' from the wall.

    But I guess those who never saw the headlights and how well (or not) they are aimed don't have any problem passing judgement.
    Fantastic.

    And to think that if someone came up will a decent solution to the crappy candlesticks that Toyota placed at the front of the Prius and dared calling them headlights, that will be a worthy contribution to some other forum members.
    But that's okay, don't let the facts confuse you, please proceed with this wonderful welcoming commitee, you're doing great :suspicious:.

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    I agree, well aimed headlight regardless how bright they are shouldn't be an issue. Poorly aimed lights are a pain in the bum even if they are only 37 watt. (remember those 37 watt 5 1/4 inch sealed beams?)

    Edit: - I don't need to remember, I can just drive my 68 Toyota Crown, it has the factory originals still in it.
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    Oh please, of course you must know it all.
    The fact of the matter is you show absolutely no foresight or consideration to how your actions may disturb others.

    Ignorance is bliss, so be happy with your brighter lights.

    One day when you grow up, and your eyes start the great decline, you may realize the error of your ways.

    Let me make one simple example, just for you.
    Please tell me how your illegal, well aimed headlights, bouncing off of wet pavement, do not increase glare for oncoming traffic.
    No, the answer is not, “ It never rains in SoCalâ€.

    Glare was not a problem for me until recently, it just kind of sneaks up on you.

    If you choose to call people unfriendly because they won’t buy your bull@@@@, you have more pressing issues to deal with.
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    A 80W bulb only give a slightly increase in intensity compare to the 55W. The aiming should not change as the construction of the filament is the same and at the same location inside the bulb. The glare should not increase.

    The worst offenders are the ones replace the halogen bulbs with HIDs because the head light reflector is not designed to focus the beam for HIDs.

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    Having properly aimed lights is not the holy grail, here. One consideration is that they are not legal, and one might say for good reason.

    Properly Aimed only matters on a level surface with cars going right past each other. Coming over a hill, coming out of driveways, coming around corners, and any other time when lights are not level and straight ARE precisely the problem. And THAT is a great deal of the time.

    Add to that that all the other drivers on the road are NOT young and viril like you, with eyes like an eagle and nerves of steel. THEY suffer at your hands.

    Perhaps you were inconsiderate by your inability to empathize, but now that you've been informed of your actions it must be by youthful arrogance if you simply don't believe us.
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    Children...be nice and respectful. Some of you have anger issues.
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    So you call adults.... children, and then you say be respectful?
    And that’s all in one sentence, truly enlightening.



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    DGH, I guess you ran out of chill pills, but I'm not going to waste my time answering you because from your posts it strikes me that you're a d**k.
    So now that you evaluated my social skills, IQ and mental condition, please leave this thread alone.
    It doesn't seem like you have much more to contribute here.

    Note to mods / admins -
    I'm guessing that personal attacks are fine with you, no one seemed to be bothered about the rest of the posts :rolleyes:...
    How is someone supposed to keep a conversation on topic when every counter-point contains a cheap shot aimed at the poster?

    This is pretty lame.
    Forums are about sharing info, and that's what I had in mind.
    Points well taken, oh well...
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