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    I was walking my dog in the neighborhood one early morning this week and was stunned to see a monstrous SUV in someone's driveway. It was almost as tall as his (or her) one-story house and looked like a semi tractor with a little-bitty pickup bed on it. Lo and behold, it was the International Harvester CXT (see mug-shot below). I had read about this monster, but can't believe that someone would actually go out and get one. 9 ft tall, 21 ft long, weighs 26,000 lbs, gets all of 6 mpg on diesel, and costs $115,000.

    Now, why didn't I think of getting this practical little vehicle for my errands around town. Sheesh!

    I ran home right after this traumatic experience and gave our seven week old Tideland Prius a great big hug :)
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    you should drive down and get a picture of the cars together.
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    Well, some people buy those things to tow giant 5th wheel campers that would almost squash a 1 ton pickup truck.

    The phrase "more money than brains" comes to mind, but I do believe that's an oxymoron.
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    I've seen them used as work trucks with a large 5th wheel work trailer in tow and 5 guys in the cab and they weren't on holidays.
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    Frank:

    Good point. Manitoba Hydro has a few around here. The 5th wheel flatbed trailer usually has a backhoe or long poles on it.

    Jay
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    I came out of a restaurant to find a Hummer parked next to me. I laughed so hard! I would have thought hed be too embarassed to park next to such obviously superior technology and efficiency! ;-)
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    Remember some people tow stuff with that. I heard the price tag was $75K+ so not sure someone would pay for that just to drive around town.

    Now the Hummer is a diffferent story. To me that is a waste, but to each his own. BTW, the military are using hybrid HMMWVs. It is estimated that it costs abotu $100/gal to get fuel to the soldiers. Not to mention the hybrid in elec mode is good for noise discipline.

    I think they should start the freebates that were talked about in the Oil Engame book. Prius owners with high MPG would get a $2000 rebate and Hummer owners would pay $4000 extra to have the gas guzzler.
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    The charitable part of me tried to rationalize that this was a work truck, but it was way too "pretty" - no working gear, no commercial plates, no business signage. And, it was 7am when I saw it in his/her driveway, not exactly work time. It looked very much like a status symbol/ macho toy.

    Oh well, I'll climb down from my soapbox now that I've had a chance to vent.
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    hey if you got it flaunt it. When he's 65 and flat broke don't come crying for a hand out. Just ain't gonna be there.
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    yep prob a toy if there is no 5th wheel or at least a heavy tow hitch.
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Frank Hudon\";p=\"79724)</div>
    Frank:

    Well said!

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(alanhu99\";p=\"79588)</div>
    I am reminded of the line from Shrek: "Do you think he's compensating for something?" If you weren't already a damned fool, you'd certainly have to feel like one driving around in a beast like that (same goes for the Hummer).
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    DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!!

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    i know a guy who might wish that he had one. he has a 4 horse trailer that he pulls on occasion full and he is always complaining he doesnt have the power to get to eastern wa with his GMC he's got now.
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    Sure, that would be a legitimate use. Quite a few folks out there - such as farmers and construction co's - have moved from "light duty" one ton trucks to Medium Duty trucks.

    If you're always at the maximum GCWR, the Medium Duty truck will last a lot longer while getting the same fuel economy (4-7 MPG) as the "light duty" one ton.

    If you can keep a Medium Duty on the road for a decade instead of junking a one ton truck every 3-4 years, you're money ahead then.

    But if you need to "compensate" for something and drive around in this expensive monster as a daily driver, well ... don't complain to me or anybody else about what it costs to fill the tank.
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jayman\";p=\"80149)</div>
    I don't know where you guys come up with some of your fuel economy guesses. I used to drive class 8 trucks, and could get 7 mpg out of a 14 liter engine pulling max gross weight. Even when pulling 120,000 pound loads (special permits required), I could still see 4.5 to 5 mpg, running I-80 in Wyoming.

    Realistically, I'd expect to see 10 to 12 mpg towing, and mid teens empty out of this truck.
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    hey Wolfie wanna bet this things got an Allison auto in it. Cut 3 off the top for that. Not a lot of city folks can deal with a 5n2 or a 13 speed Road Ranger.
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    That 6 speed allison is a very different animal from the old 4 speed monstrosity. Irregardless, this thing weighs about 70,000 pounds less, and has about 1/3 the size of a hole in the air to punch going down the road.
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    for sure the 6 is way better for mileage, but we have had lots of grief with them. Mostly exteral sensor and relay problems and a s**t load of computer problems.

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