June sales data?

Where are you guys getting the breakdown of PiP on a per month basis?

June

LEAF: 535

Volt: 1,760 (Corvette: 1,475)

PiP: ???

P.S. Wow this forum's interface is nice. Best one I've seen.

PIP sales for June were 695.

Toyota Prius Plug-In Sales Slump To 695 Units In June, Toyota Puts Blame on Supply

well, there's plenty available rounf these parts.

Heh. The opinion is mixed. See Would you want to go back to vBulletin (the old software)? | PriusChat.

Although I like a few new features here, personally, I'd rather go back to the old software, as long as the previous board's perf problems could be resolved. Tivocommunity runs vBulletin and although I don't seem to be able to find an simultaneous active user count, they've not had perf problems in a long while.

My answer was "Yes, but I don't feel as strongly as the above".

The sales numbers are not good, but it still too early to draw much of a conclusion, as the PiP are only available in 15 states (maps from insideEVs.com):


so there is very clearly a "supply" issue if you are in the center of the country.. (like CO or TX )

And there could be other supply issues as well. But I'll also add that cars.com (which is a very crude source since it often counts cars that are already sold and cars still in transit), shows 2727 Plug-in Prius in stock.

The bigger concern I would have is that the total sales of EV/PHEV is down..and it is < 3K cars per year adding new cars like the Energi will only be dividing a small pie. We need to help make the pie bigger.

I haven't looked on their lot but one of my local dealers has 8 (EIGHT) standard PiPs listed in the inventory.

PS Finally saw my first wild Volt last weekend, heading south between Freeport and Portland.

The good news is that the price of gas is down. The bad news is that it's the higher price of gas that seems to stimulate Prius sales.

suv sales are proly up now, twas ever thus.

Not many TV commercials for any of the EVs.
I see a few Volt ads, but PIPs and Leafs are just included briefly with the whole line of Toyotas or Nissans.
No commercials just for the PIP or Leaf.

If they would advertize, more would be sold.

High prices scare away potential customers.

The Koons Auto Group in the mid Atlantic region has on July 4th: 1553 Toyota's total
33 Camry hybrid (6 LE, 27 XLE)
7 Highlander hybrid (6 LTD v6, 1 v6)
191 Prius hybrid (2 five, 9 four, 87 three, 92 two)
42 Prius Plug-in (25 base, 17 adv)
22 Prius c (2 four, 12 three, 8 two)
38 Prius v hybrid (15 five, 17 three, 6 two)

Lexus
11 2013 RX450h
2012
8 RX450h
19 CT200h
1 HS250h

75 2012 Ford Fusion hybrid (17 "501a", 46 "502a", 12 ???)
1 2011 Fusion hybrid

23 2012 Scion iQ
8 2012 Kia Optima hybrid (7 conv. 4 Prem)
7 2012 Leaf (5 SL, 2 SV)
7 2012 Volt all $45k package.
12 2013 Smart (9 passion"1 cabo", 3 Pure)
1 2012 Smart passion "cabo"

Yep, per Auto Sales - Markets Data Center - WSJ.com.

From http://media.gm.com/dld/content/Pages/news/us/en/2012/Jul/gmsales/_jcr_content/rightpar/sectioncontainer/par/download/file.res/Deliveries%20June%202012.pdf, Yukon XL and Suburban sales were up over 50% compared to the same period last year. Meanwhile, Cruze sales were down 23.8% over the same period...

Toyota Prius

Jun 2012 19,150

% Chg from Jun 2011 341.2

YTD 2012 126,654

% Chg from YTD 2011 90.4

341% and 90% look pretty good except that there was very little inventory at this time last year do to the shut down.
I'm seeing way to many unsold vehicles mostly trucks on the local lots. Almost like it was before the so called bailout. Our local Chevy dealer has had to rent a city parking garage to store them.

^^^
Right, sales numbers from Toyota and Honda (esp.) are likely to be pretty messed up (low for a fair part of last year) due to the tsunami and parts supply disruption.

gas is supposed to go up a bit for the rest of the summer.

So in June, Chevy sold more that twice as many Volts as Toyota sold Plug-in Prius? Ouch!

True but the Plug-in Prius is only sold in 15 states.. that does not help them and its not totally comparable. Too early to draw much of a conclusion. Bigger issues is that all EV/PHEV sales are not growing...

Also remember that Chevy is pushing out the Volts that don't qualify for certain benefits, such as car-pool lanes in CA. They had to upgrade the emissions package on the "newer" model.

What do you mean by pushing out?

The eAT-PZEV version of the '12 Volt that qualify for CA green HOV sticker has been shipping for a little while.