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Need some advise on this used 2005 Prius, worth buying?

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  1. Don Siri

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    It has about 166K miles on it for $6200. I've obtained the serviced record below. The maintenance records looks good, very routine. What are my risks here?
    Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated.

    2005 PRIUS
    Service History for Your
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    DATE SERVICE TYPE SERVICE PROVIDER MILEAGE DESCRIPTION
    05/18/2013 Dealer Pat Lobb Toyota Of 161,333
    EXPRESS OIL CHANGE, 1 YR
    EMMISIONS STICK
    REPAIR ORDER NUMBER: 0319084
    03/01/2013 Dealer Larry H. Miller Toyota 156,140
    5,000 MILE SERVICE - OIL & FILTER
    CHANGE, CHECK ALL FLUID
    LEVELS, MULTI POINT IN, REPLACE
    LICENSE PLATE BULB, REPLACE
    AIR FILTER, REPLACE CABIN AIR
    FILTER
    REPAIR ORDER NUMBER: 0662292
    01/18/2013 Dealer Pat Lobb Toyota Of 151,258
    EXPRESS OIL CHANGE, STEERING
    SHAFT
    REPAIR ORDER NUMBER: 0299348
    10/19/2012 Dealer Pat Lobb Toyota Of 146,169
    EXPRESS OIL CHANGE
    REPAIR ORDER NUMBER: 0284645
    08/04/2012 Dealer Pat Lobb Toyota Of 140,864
    EXPRESS OIL CHANGE
    REPAIR ORDER NUMBER: 0272042
    04/24/2012 Dealer Pat Lobb Toyota Of 135,812
    EXPRESS OIL CHANGE, 1 YR
    EMMISIONS STICK
    REPAIR ORDER NUMBER: 0255704
    2005 PRIUS
    5116 MORNINGWOOD LN
    CANE RIDGE, TN 37013-4878
    DATE SERVICE TYPE SERVICE PROVIDER MILEAGE DESCRIPTION
    01/30/2012 Dealer Pat Lobb Toyota Of 130,739
    OIL AND FILTER CHANGE
    INCLUDING
    REPAIR ORDER NUMBER: 6016479
    09/07/2011 Dealer Pat Lobb Toyota Of 125,545
    EXPRESS OIL CHANGE
    REPAIR ORDER NUMBER: 0237497
    07/05/2011 Dealer Pat Lobb Toyota Of 120,277
    EXPRESS OIL CHANGE
    REPAIR ORDER NUMBER: 0227149
    04/26/2011 Dealer Pat Lobb Toyota Of 115,028
    EXPRESS OIL CHANGE
    REPAIR ORDER NUMBER: 0216418
    01/13/2011 Dealer Pat Lobb Toyota Of 109,096
    EXPRESS OIL CHANGE, RECALL
    REPAIR ORDER NUMBER: 0200977
    09/30/2010 Dealer Pat Lobb Toyota Of 104,703
    EXPRESS OIL CHANGE
    REPAIR ORDER NUMBER: 0185199
    07/29/2010 Dealer Pat Lobb Toyota Of 99,540
    EXPRESS OIL CHANGE
    REPAIR ORDER NUMBER: 0175472
    07/19/2010 Dealer Pat Lobb Toyota Of 98,984
    BODY ELECTRICAL, ENGINE
    MINOR, PEDAL AND SCC 90L
    REPAIR ORDER NUMBER: 0173898
    04/21/2010 Dealer Pat Lobb Toyota Of 94,708
    EXPRESS OIL CHANGE
    REPAIR ORDER NUMBER: 0160067
    01/16/2010 Dealer Pat Lobb Toyota Of 89,452
    EXPRESS OIL CHANGE, 1 YR
    EMMISIONS STICK
    REPAIR ORDER NUMBER: 0145164
    09/18/2009 Dealer Pat Lobb Toyota Of 84,378
    EXPRESS OIL CHANGE
    REPAIR ORDER NUMBER: 0130158
    06/30/2009 Dealer Pat Lobb Toyota Of 79,761
    EXPRESS OIL CHANGE
    REPAIR ORDER NUMBER: 0119558
    DATE SERVICE TYPE SERVICE PROVIDER MILEAGE DESCRIPTION
    04/01/2009 Dealer Pat Lobb Toyota Of 74,651
    EXPRESS OIL CHANGE
    REPAIR ORDER NUMBER: 0107261
    12/05/2008 Dealer Pat Lobb Toyota Of 69,848
    1 YR EMMISIONS STICK
    REPAIR ORDER NUMBER: 0094558
    11/24/2008 Dealer Pat Lobb Toyota Of 69,549
    EXPRESS OIL CHANGE
    REPAIR ORDER NUMBER: 0093547
    08/20/2008 Dealer Pat Lobb Toyota Of 64,475
    EXPRESS OIL CHANGE
    REPAIR ORDER NUMBER: 0083082
    07/31/2008 Dealer Pat Lobb Toyota Of 61,654
    60K SVC FACT REC
    REPAIR ORDER NUMBER: 0080571
    06/27/2008 Dealer Pat Lobb Toyota Of 59,569
    EXPRESS OIL CHANGE
    REPAIR ORDER NUMBER: 0076789
    04/15/2008 Dealer Pat Lobb Toyota Of 54,658
    EXPRESS OIL CHANGE
    REPAIR ORDER NUMBER: 0068290
    01/04/2008 Dealer Toyota Of Richardson 50,012
    OIL & FILTER CHANGE & MULTI
    POIN, FREE CAR WASH
    REPAIR ORDER NUMBER: 0500216
     
  2. jadziasman

    jadziasman Prius owner emeritus

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    The biggest risk by far is the traction battery - it could fail tomorrow or five years from now.

    Until you test drive it, you really don't know anything about this particular car. Have you ever driven a Gen 2 Prius before? If not, you won't be able to tell if there's anything wrong with it unlike someone who drives one every day.

    Do you know anyone who owns or used to own a Gen 2? If so, have that person drive it. If you don't, go to a stealership and test drive a low mileage 08 or 09 so you get an idea of what they are like when they are in good condition.

    If you decide you want it after the test drive, then have a certified mechanic inspect it for obvious problems. A talented mechanic will spot problems the average joe will miss.

    You're taking a big risk no matter what. You might luck out and get a reliable one (like mine). Be prepared for the worst just in case.
     
  3. 2k1Toaster

    2k1Toaster Brand New Prius Batteries

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    I would get that car thoroughly checked out by a mechanic, but there is always risk.

    The service records show that the person went to the Toyota Dealership for every oil change and paid them to do things like the cabin air filter. To me, this says they were dolts. Or at least they knew nothing about any kind of maintenance on a vehicle and when the dealer says something they did it. That can be good in that the dealer likes to replace and fix things that really don't need to be replaced or fixed, but it is also bad because these are also the people that cannot tell when a part is about to go bad. Can't distinguish a good sounding engine from a poor sounding engine, and if anything outside of the routine goes bad, they would never know.

    That's why a good 3rd party mechanic should have a thorough once over. Have the struts been changed? Sparkplugs replaced? The ATF doesn't look like it was done, so it is about 100K miles over-due for that. The quick-lube express oil that has been in the car, who knows what crap that is. Who knows if it is even 0w20, it is probably bottom of the barrel 5w30 or whatever was cheapest that day.
     
  4. jadziasman

    jadziasman Prius owner emeritus

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    Or some have money to burn, like the previous owner of my Prius must have had. This lady had the 30K, 60K 90K, and 120K services performed on "our" Prius. Not to mention other services she should have declined. She was clueless, but must have had the bucks to throw into the wind. I should be so fortunate :LOL: .
     
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    2k1Toaster Brand New Prius Batteries

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    If you are going to pay someone $85 for 5 minutes of work and a $10 part, then you better make over $900/hr for me to not consider you a fool. :)
     
  6. mikefocke

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    Reasonable price at the mileage, yes. But everything depends on condition. Battery (12v) age? Tires? But it looks like it was maintained. Beats no record.

    Could any car ever made fail tomorrow, sure. Any particular reason to think this one will be more probable to fail? No.

    Do you know someone local who knows something about these cars enough to know by driving it there isn't something you might think a quirk of a hybrid but which is abnormal and an indication of a problem? Remember, age and wear add up to probability that a part is on the other end of the failure probability curve.

    So will the seller warranty it for any length? Permit a Pre-Purchase Inspection?
     
  7. JMD

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    Like any old high mileage car the cost is low but repair costs can be high.

    The Prius is a reliable car but a rebuilt battery can set you back 2 grand. As long as you are aware of that best to you and happy motoring.

    You may want to consider an older Honda Civic. Maybe it is me but they seem to go on and on
     
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    If all you can afford is a $6200 car, then you need an older Toyota or Honda sedan. I'm not one that subscribes to the theory that the HV battery will outlive God, because they can fail at any age/mileage really. This one is obviously out of warranty (even in a CARB state), so if you don't have 3 grand laying around, then forget about it. Gambling on a Prius could hurt your wallet more than a 25 MPG Camry.
     
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  9. jadziasman

    jadziasman Prius owner emeritus

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    Did you ever own a Honda Civic, JMD? I don't recall you mentioning that you had.

    Civics are very reliable (I owned two of the same model and the same year off and on between 1992 and 2010). But they have their own Achilles heels too. Not quite as expensive as a traction battery, I'll grant you that. Civics have been known to have transmission problems (automatic and manual) when they reach 200K miles and above. And repair of a front wheel drive transaxle is so much fun - not! Been there, done that, don't ever want to do it again.
     
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    Don't forget the timing belt at the 100K mark. There's some money I'm glad I didn't spend when I traded my Civic @97,000 miles for a Prius.
     
  11. jadziasman

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    The OP might just like a bargain. He might be able to afford more but doesn't want to deplete his bank account or go into debt for three or more years. If he can snag a older Prius in good condition in that price range, it's still worthwhile, despite the risk of having the traction battery fail on him soon after buying it.

    You might not have noticed but used car prices are insanely high right now. Some optimist wanted $1200 for his 93 Dodge Dynasty with a red vinyl top with 120K miles on Craiglist today. Correct me if 'm wrong. but I doubt many people are clamoring to own a Dodge Dynasty today.
     
  12. jadziasman

    jadziasman Prius owner emeritus

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    Oh yeah, forgot about that. I changed out two timing belts on the Civics. Fairly easy repair though. Piece of cake compared to lowering the transaxle from the engine bay and repairing the tranny and installing a new clutch.
     
  13. Don Siri

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    All very good advise folks, thanks alot! What scare me about are the mechanical parts, the HV battery I definitely can get it off ebay for a grand and install it myself. Again I've never driven a Prius, so I have no idea how it feels. I've old 96 Honda accord and 04 Toyota 4Runner. I'm not really happy with the MPG at all. I plan to go test drive this car tomorrow and see how it feels. Again, thank you all for the replies.
     
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