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Nobel Prize ultrathin carbon tape

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  1. jayman

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    Rae Vynn Artist In Residence

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    You only had to start this thread once...
     
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    hyo silver Awaaaaay

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    The potential applications of this are exciting. Not just sychronous skyhooks, also known as space elevators, but electronics, aircraft, cars...perhaps of the same magnitude of change as plastics.

    Mr Clarke's ideas continue to impress, despite his insistence that he be remembered as 'just a writer'.
     
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    hyo silver Awaaaaay

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    Not his fault - part of the site's slowdown, I guess. It's easy to hit the post button twice while you're waiting for it to go.

    So, why did you reply to the wrong one? :p
     
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    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    This tape is so thin that it shows up twice in the same forum.

    Tom
     
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    Rae Vynn Artist In Residence

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    No one had replied to either... I picked one ;)
     
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    This sounds like a Silver Bullet.

    [​IMG]

    Is this the sort of algorithm-breaking technology that could
    lead to a 100 lb., 300 mile EV battery in, lets say, 10 years?

    :rip: ICE. :rockon:

    :D
     
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    Now if we could only figure out how to produce "Transparent Aluminium"...
     
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    Who would believe that you could make a carbon sheet a single atom thick with scotch tape? The global warming naysayers would never believe that.
     
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    Has to be completely amorphous. Metals are too crystalline. Are there any glassy metals? You can probably make glassy ceramics from aluminum organo-compounds. Your clear oven countertops are glassy ceramics.
     
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    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    Yes, but in six months it turns yellow and cracks apart. ;)

    Tom
     
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    I think were gonna need some better tape!!!
     
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    One of those same guys won a 2000 Ignoble prize in Physics for using diamagnetism to levitate a live frog.

    Maybe now he'll be taken more seriously.
     
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    I used to work with a man who, when someone used a "But... "
    statement, would shout,

    "BUT?? If frogs had wings, they wouldn't bump their butts when
    they hop."
    :p

    Well, it looks like this frog isn't bumping his butt:

    The Levitating Frog Video-

    The Simple Explanation:
    "As you probably saw many times when playing with magnets,
    magnets push each other away if you try to bring together their like
    poles, for example, two north or two south poles. Similarly, the north
    pole of the external field will try to push away the “north poles” of
    magnetized atoms.

    "Our magnet creates a very large magnetic field (about 100 to 1000
    times larger than school or household magnets).

    "In this field, all the atoms inside the frog act as very small magnets
    creating a field of about 2 Gauss (although very small, such a field can
    still be detected by a compass). One may say that the frog is now built
    up of these tiny magnets all of which are repelled by the large magnet.
    The force, which is directed upwards, appears to be strong enough to
    compensate the force of gravity (directed downwards) that also acts on
    every single atom of the frog. So, the frog’s atoms do not feel any
    force at all and the frog floats as if it were in a spacecraft."


    The full explanation:
    High Field Magnet Laboratory - The Frog That Learned to Fly
     
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    No, I do not know why the thread appeared twice. I was perfectly sober when I submitted it

    Maybe that was my problem!
     
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    Floating frogs aside, the potential for this discovery extend to every field - batteries, chemistry, structures, etc.

    I do not understand why the thread posted twice. Though perhaps it was because I was stone cold sober when I posted it. Big mistake there
     
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    Just think how much sooner this could have been discovered if all that wasted money trying to prove AGW was given to projects such as this.
     
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    Yes, we have to figure out priorities. The bucket of money isn't bottemless.

    Sometimes the application can be two or more decades off, but R&D in advanced theoretical projects is where I would prefer the money be spent.

    Promise for nuclear fusion test reactors, findings show

    What I find disappointing is that there is only ONE tokamak research reactor in the entire country.
     
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