At the risk of having this degrade into another shouting match over who knows where Naknek is, or who knows when the equinox is I will try this once more? Is any one else concerned when they study the temperature anomalies illustrated with this image? Particularly around the arctic basin? Keep in mind two things, first this image projects temperature ANOMALIES relative to seasonal/historical averages, second please note that it DOES NOT include ocean temps. (I personally would like to see a image that does) Once again, I am not interested in, "Boy it's cold in Novosibirsk" or "Boy it's cold in Thule", my question is "Is anyone else concerned about the anomalies?" A simple yes or now might be fine, and might keep it clean,,, I hope. http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=42260
Not concerned. In October the Arctic Oscillation took a very deep negative turn: Global warming not to blame for warmer North Pole? ? The Register Forecasting The Arctic Oscillation Watts Up With That? The Arctic Oscillation Index goes strongly negative Watts Up With That? Also there have been changes in the North Atlantic Oscillation. IPCC scientist: Global cooling headed our way for the next 30 years? Watts Up With That? Etc, etc.
If I were him, I'd be concerned because the Met office failed to predict this ridiculously cold winter and many people were unprepared for it. Cities base a lot of their preparedness on such predictions and they completely screwed up. Lots of people are dying this winter from the cold. Give me heat any day.
Once again, this overwhelming need to answer questions addressed to others. If I wanted your opinion I would have asked for it! I thank you in advance for you consideration in the future!
Why do you start a thread and then complain at anybody who contributes? I gave a very honest answer. Hello?
The question posed to RP was why HE was concerned about the blue on the map. You have already weighed in that you weren't concerned about the polar basin temperature anomalies. You are not interested in fostering dialogue (certainly not with me!), you are only interested in stirring things up, trying to piss me off.
So, since you haven't answered the question, I have to assume that it was a flippant response. Once again so useful in furthering dialogue.
I've added radioprius1 and NevadaPrius to my ignore list. They don't seem to be able to do anything but repeat the same thing over and over again by being flip, arrogant and self-rightous. I suggest you do the same since you're obviously not getting anywhere with them. Back to the topic at hand - the increase in polar basin temperatures could mean a number of things with the overall climate - now we'll likely have less ice volume in the arctic and more farther south - at least until spring. Given that there have been big many large Arctic Oscillations in the past, I'll have to suggest that it's just weather. If large Arctic Oscillations become commonplace - then we'll have to re-evaluate the situation.
Why do all alarmist claim intellectual superiority when they are constantly wrong? In "my" thread I destroyed all your arguments. You could not counter any of mine. Funny that you're basically quoting NevadaPrius re: the AO, NAO.
I agree I should ignore, but occasionally the personal attacks are pretty hard not to comment on. I think from now on I will try harder!
The national ice and snow data center has a nice, concise discussion of the Arctic Oscillation and the potential impact on arctic ice. Interestingly, the impact is ambiguous: The large negative arctic oscillation, which allowed cold arctic air to spill south and be replaced by warmer air, also affects the winds that drive sea ice out of the arctic. So, it's warmer but with less ice loss via transport. Their discussion is here, see "Negative Phase ... " Arctic Sea Ice News & Analysis It's such a short-term phenomenon that any particular instance looks essentially unpredictable, at least to me. NOAA's model ensemble only extends a couple of weeks into the future. CPC - Monitoring & Data: Ensemble Mean Arctic Oscillation Forecasts
