...other suggestions? Don't get me wrong. I'm not here to V bash as I really like this car. However, I've started crunching the numbers on the "economies of economy" and I'm undecided if a V is my best choice. First off, if I buy a V I want the trim v. I want the pleather, and heated seats and other goodies. Even still strongly considering going for the AT. So, at a min, looking at 30K and a max say 35K (cause I haggle HARD) Well, looking around, not much is comparable. Especially since I'm not much on sedans with trunks and low seat position. Well, I saw the Fit from Honda. Havn't driven one yet, but just looking online and saw a couple on the road it looks interesting. It has a more sport wagon shape. Hopefully a bit higher seating position than a sedan, and I'm hearing people averaging more like 35 MPG, well over the EPA. (Up around 37 highway). The MATH: A V at an average of 45mpg over 150,000 mile ownership cycle at $4 per gallon yields $13,333 dollars in fuel. A Fit at an average of just 30 mpg over 150,000 miles at $4 per gallon is $20,000 in gas. So, the net difference is less than $7,000. A fully loaded sport series Fit can be had for about 20K. Compare that to about 30K for a haggled V 5 and thats 10K difference that'll never be recovered. Now its a different car, and I dont want something that feels like I'm in an unsafe tiny little econobox that rides rough. But I do think this is worth consideration. Anyone else thought about this? Thoughts?