Re: 1 voteBuzz up! Report: Toyota May Replace Gas Pedals in Floormat Recall

Toyota will probably put in shorter pedals like those in an MGB.

Re: 1 voteBuzz up! Report: Toyota May Replace Gas Pedals in Floormat Recall

Or hinged pedals, so you can tip it to let the floormat slide off.

Re: 1 voteBuzz up! Report: Toyota May Replace Gas Pedals in Floormat Recall

I'd rather see them replace the floor mats. I had to patch my drivers side because I wore a hole through the all weather mat.

It should be all about me. :madgrin:

Re: 1 voteBuzz up! Report: Toyota May Replace Gas Pedals in Floormat Recall

I love my MGB!

Re: 1 voteBuzz up! Report: Toyota May Replace Gas Pedals in Floormat Recall

Another "Cover Your Ass" solution, to a problem that does not really exist.

Just make sure YOUR mats are clipped in properly, and NO after market mats on top of the existing mats!!!

What next.......?????

Re: 1 voteBuzz up! Report: Toyota May Replace Gas Pedals in Floormat Recall

You're right, just another DRIVER'S responsibility trowed to the manufacturer.

Next step I would say that any diagnosed stupid driver should be replaced or at least restrained to the passenger seat !!!

I agree... Fix the stupid people... The pedals work fine if you have half a brain.

It is far faster, easier, and cheaper to fix the pedals than to fix the people.

Kind of a no brainer...two little holes in the floor mat...two little hooks sticking up out of the floor...and look! They line up...maybe the little hooks go into the little holes? Amazing how even stupid people can figure out things going into holes to reproduce but they can't figure it out for a floor mat

The zip tie "fix" was lame. Changing the accelerator pedal should solve the floormat issue, if that issue even exists.

However I think a hybrid vehicle ECU firmware change is needed that will positively reduce (not eliminate) engine power when the brake pedal is depressed. According to the 11/8 LA Times story, the drivers of at least some of the cars undergoing unexplained acceleration were able to find the brake pedal, based upon skid marks left, brakes catching on fire, etc.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-fi-toyota-recall8-2009nov08,0,6120294.story

Watch this video by Carolyn @ Luscious Garage. I think the very last part where she yells out an expletive is very interesting.

I for one thought the zip tie "solution" was brilliant. So it was cheap and utillitarian? But if applied, solved the problem. Applicable, instantly across Toyota's entire line. It was Toyota's way of saying "Houston, we have a prob.....hey how about zip ties?".

Actually the Reuters article makes it sound like it's all still in negotiation. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

The average IQ is 100. That means that there are many people with lower IQ and/or mobility. Then there are many young and old people who may not be as updated with the latest issues and may not have the life experience. Further, foreigners (illiterates in English) who don't know any English. They may not have any Priuses in their home country. There are first time drivers (cute looking sons, daughters, fathers, mothers, grandmas, grandpas etc).

These people don't deserve to die. This is not a life or death IQ physical dexterity test. I am glad we are a compassionate country who can reduce the risk for all these people.

Driving with out shoes, is A - STUPID, and B - in many states Illegal.....

Other than that the system seems to work/....

Although it's accepted as common knowledge, it turns out that barefoot driving is not illegal in any state.

The point of the video above was not that she was driving barefoot (she did that so it was easier to see how she was manipulating the pedals) the point was how she was surprised by the rate that the car accelerated when she had the go pedal floored and released the brake pedal.

Go Pedal held down by mat or otherwise activated + release brake = rapid acceleration (295 ft lbs worth)

Correct. There is a catch-all law where you can be cited if your bare feet prevent you from properly controlling the vehicle, but simply driving with bare feet is not illegal.

Tom