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    bwilson4web 03 and 10 Prius

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    Hi,

    Mission Zero - Toyota Previews Generation III 2010 Prius Hybrid

    I have been going nuts trying to find this one bit of data. The whole write-up is one of the best collections I've seen.

    Bob Wilson
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    Very good find Bob, thanks for sharing.

    Even though we knew this already, its something small I am glad they finally addressed:

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    Great write up!
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    Hi Bob,

    Nice article. Following is an excerpt:

    "As Prius power steering and air conditioning systems remain electrically driven, the 2ZR-FXE powerplant is Toyota’s first beltless engine."

    Actually, Highlander Hybrid (and RX400h) share Toyota's first beltless engine, the 3.3L V6. Although the engine coolant pump is mechanically driven, the timing belt turns that pump so there are no belts attached to the crankshaft pulley. Power steering and air conditioning are electric, like 2G and 2010 Prius.
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    Note the corrected value of 59w for the solar panel. This is closer to the 60w mentioned @ PCD.

    I'd agree w/ the assessment that the Prius engine is the first truly beltless engine if the timing belt drives the HiHy water pump. However, until we go camless, there's still a parasitic drag caused by the timing chain ;-)

    This is an excellent read and, if accurate, the best thing yet until the NCF guide is relased!
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    patsparks An Aussie perspective

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    Patrick, when is a timing belt not a belt?
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    Nice writeup!
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    When its timing is off?
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    I wished I'd found it there first! GreenCarCongress is such an excellent web site for facts and data. It is what Edmunds and a few other automotive web sites should aspire to become. Really, a quality source of news. But this explains why I couldn't find anything at the other web site worth reading. <grins>

    When I find a good article at a web site, I'll spend time looking through the site for other similar articles. I spent nearly an hour and couldn't find another single article worth reading at the first web site. They had just reposted an article from GreenCarCongress and I suspect, not even bothered to site the source. D*mn I hate plagerism.

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    Bob, clicking on the title as I did would have taken you straight to the source of the document. Mission Zero seems to be some type of news aggregator.
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    <GROAN>That doesn't make it better ... a 'news aggregator' simply means no value added content but just a copy from someone else. <grumble, mutter, gnashing>

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    I've got a 45 page University of Toyota document that I'll be posting soon that has all of this information plus a few more tidbits.
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    Danny,

    Hurry, hurry.
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    My sister's subaru started squeeking. My brother in law said "the belt is slipping". My sister said "which belt". My brother in law said "your car only has one belt". My sister said "it has seatbelts too". I said "it also has a timing belt, and maybe some others I'm not thinking about". It was a fun conversation. But my point is, other manufacturers already make beltless engines?

    Regards,
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    As in March 25 or April something? English or Japanese?

    Bob Wilson
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    wow.. 45 pages. standard pages?
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    Toyota has a University!?

    No wonder they are way ahead of the pack!
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    lol
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    Can't wait to read every word of it.
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