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The coming Little Ice Age

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by mojo, Oct 8, 2015.

  1. mojo

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    They burned the witches last LIA and it solved the problem then.
     
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    After not seeing posting activity recently, I at least am sighing relief.
     
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    Lots of activity at the end of summer in SF.
    Then I realized there are AGW discussions on Facebook.
     
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    There's nothing bigger than facebook, so a message that 'cold, somewhere, sometime outweighs global warming' is sure to find some resonance.

    Facebook is not quite global though, so you'll have to manage without my contrariness there.

    All mojo's stimulations will continue to be welcomed here by me.
     
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    Last year's heavy snowfall in much of the US has not repeated itself. Variability among years happens...

    Variability in reporting happens too. Maybe Sen. Inhofe won't bring a melted snowman cookie to his workplace but you can search for the image elsewhere. Pretty cute.

    Speaking of snow, it fell here in Kunming before in Buffalo NY (by one day) :) That's unusual. Subtropical here is the nominal climate, so we generally lack indoor heating. If your indoor temperature is 10 o C, you are probably dressed like me :eek: <-smiley seemed closest to 'cold!'
     
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    is that your first emote? :cool: our record snow started in january, it's going to be 60 on Christmas.

    i won't worry until the last dino dies.
     
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    At the moment, it seems to be going to the area it missed last year: here! (And the Canadian Rockies too.) The Pacific Northwest ski season is already off to a great start, helping to make up for the poor snowpack last year. And we are expecting three more powder dumps before Christmas.

    Yesterday, Snoqualmie Pass's seasonal snowfall exceeded last winter's entire dismal season. But I don't yet see any indications of record high or Ice-Age-level quantities, just a return to something more normal after last year's record low.
     
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    comforting, thanks.
     
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    Global air T from UAH and RSS satellite analyses do not increase only if you start your run in 1998. Before of after, it does. Maybe that means something.

    Global decadal air T by surface measurements continue to increase since about 1970. Decades are not all the same, but all increase. Maybe that means something. If one supposes otherwise, one could purchase 'uncorrected' data from some or all sites. That fruit has always hung low and has yet to be plucked. Perhaps the 'not warming' or 'coming ice age' teams are short of funds?

    Global surface marine T is up for longer. Maybe that means something. I apologize for not knowing how the 'it ain't so' folks might subject that to revision.

    These recent T increases are not (yet) accelerating and perhaps they won't soon do so. Perhaps the climate models (including more water vapor forcing) are too 'hot'. That wold be a great thing for the Human Enterprise, because we all want it to do well.

    Money made from burning fossil C is big. But it is not the biggest thing, If high-latitude permafrost soils, and antarctic and Greenland ice can 'hold' for a few decades, maybe we can work our way out of this.
     
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    ...I was born in Buffalo...but rooting for the Red Skins this week.
    Good thing it's a home game here in DC...we don't have to slog around in Lake Erie lake effect snow.
    Its super warm so far with the El Nino this year. Cherry Blossoms could be early after 2-cold yrs in a row they were very late. In fact a few blossoms out now I guess some Cherry's have a Fall bloom.