Texas #3??????

surely that must be a mistake!

texas # 3 is not a surprise. they rank 3rd in population also.

Over one Prius in four in CA. Outstanding.

Texans are smarter than they get credit for.

With a handful of notable exceptions.

I'm really confused by these stats. How can there be more registrations in the New York Metro area than there are in the entire state of New York. Did the Metro area secede from the state somehow?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Trevor @ May 11 2006, 09:58 PM) [snapback]253893[/snapback]</div>

When I looked at the data, I took the 5% to be of the
cars in the NYC area.
If there are a million cars in NY state (not an actual figure) and
there are 100 000 cars in NYC (same applies), then five percent
of 100 000 will never be bigger than four percent of a million.
That's my thought on that.

BTW, it's kick ass to know that Texas isn't totally composed
of a bunch of Republican-party voting fools. Of course, some
of them are Democratic-party voting fools.

Of course, it's not surprising that Dallas didn't make the list
of metropolitan areas with a hybrid population. I think we'd
top the list for Hummer population though.
It feels like I'm flipping off Hummers every-!@#$%-day.
Sometimes if I'm lucky, the f!@#$% and I will be at the
red light. Then I get to bring out the protracted finger. :lol:

Esther

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Trevor @ May 11 2006, 10:58 PM) [snapback]253893[/snapback]</div>

I'm guessing that parts of NJ and CT were probably included in the Metro area. Note that in this map....Newark and Greenwich are both shown.Google Maps NYC NJ is just a bridge away from NYC.

Just like the DC metro includes Northern Virginia, and MD.

I can definitely attest to the concentration of the Prius in VA. My office parking lot is filled with them...and last night on I-66 on my way to a friend's...I was part of a Prius caravan. For a while, I was following a Black Prius, and being followed by a Black Prius. And then a Silver got in front of me...I swear they just wanted to join the row. :lol:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tempus @ May 11 2006, 06:54 PM) [snapback]253766[/snapback]</div>

Using 2003 state populations and drawing a relationship between % of Hybrids and % of population, based on my crude calculations, the top 10 in terms of per capita Hybrid ownership works out to be:

CA
TX
NY
FL
IL
PA
MA
VA
WA
MD

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(eastercat @ May 12 2006, 07:07 AM) [snapback]254011[/snapback]</div>

Thanks for clearing that up. I just focused on the chart which said Metro Market which I interpreted as being Manhattan, Brooklyn, Bronx, Queens and Staten Island. If I had focused on Metro Area I might have realized that "Area" would also encompass NJ and CT... comonly refered to here as the tri-state area.

I sure see a lot of Prius everyday here (Honolulu). The other night we went to my daughter's band concert and there were three other Prius parked on campus, all silver like mine.

Ok, I did it by Density in each metropolitan area (Hybrids per Person)

Metro Area - Hybrids - Population - Ratio

SF - 15,828 - 7,039,362 - 1 in 444
Sacramento - 4,144 - 2,167,891 - 1 in 523
DC - 9,396 - 5,139,549 - 1 in 547
Seattle - 5,833 - 3,554,760 - 1 in 609
San Diego - 4,281 - 2,813,833 - 1 in 657
LA - 22,922 - 16,373,645 - 1 in 714
Boston - 6.341 - 5,819,100 - 1 in 918
Philly - 5,552 - 6,188,463 - 1 in 1114
Chicago - 5,843 - 9,157,540 - 1 in 1567
NY - 11,351 - 21,199,865 - 1 in 1868

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tempus @ May 12 2006, 02:28 PM) [snapback]254213[/snapback]</div>

Thank you, Tempus. That's the most meaningful way to look at it.

We need only 2160 more in the DC area to match the SF ratio. (Make that 2159 after I pick mine up in the next few days.)

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(NoVaSnow @ May 12 2006, 02:39 PM) [snapback]254225[/snapback]</div>

Remember those numbers are just the registrations in 2005. Without a Time Machine we'll never catch them

I don't know where to find the absolute total Hybrid Registrations for each area to calculate a true Hybrid Density.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Prizzle @ May 12 2006, 10:12 AM) [snapback]254073[/snapback]</div>

This per capita order list is only true for ordering the 10 states on the original list. It says nothing about the other 40 states not on the original list.

There could be other states that have more hybrids per capita even they have less hybrid registrations than the original 10 states on the list.

For example, let’s say:
State A has 1,000 hybrids registered and a population of 100,000 people.
State B has 2,000 hybrids registered and a population of 2,000,000 people.

Another way to say this:
State A has 1 hybrid per every 100 people.
State B has 1 hybrid per every 1,000 people.

So even though State A has less hybrids than State B, State A still has a higher number per capita than State B.


The same thing goes for the cities breakdown. I would say there are other cities in the US that have more hybrids per capita than any of the 10 cities in the original list.

This is totally fascinating, but as an Angelino, I can tell you the LA number is potentially misleading. LA country is too sprawling and diverse to be summed up effectively this way. The vast majority of those cars are in the small crescent of costal plain between Palos Verdes, in the south, and the Santa Monica Mountains in the North. And there's a pretty steep density gradient running inward from the coast (it's follows the unfortunate socio-economic and political divisions in the county). It would be patricularly interesting to be able to comprehensively plot them on a map...

Personal experience and regular trips back and forth lead me to believe (unscientifically) that Venice/Santa Monica/Pacific Palisades (there are equally dense pockets peppered throughout the city, but this is the one with which I have the most experience) has a much higher density of Prii than the San Francisco Metropolitain area. No way to prove it, but it certainly seems that way when I stand at the corner near my house and watch 20 Prii go by in an hour.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Trevor @ May 12 2006, 12:05 PM) [snapback]254107[/snapback]</div>

I live in NJ, and much of the population would be considered either the NYC metro area or the Philly metro area. I'm 50 miles from Times Square and about 60 miles from central Philly, and consider myself as living in the NYC metro area.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Prizzle @ May 12 2006, 10:12 AM) [snapback]254073[/snapback]</div>

I don't think this can be right. Texas is 2nd (not 3rd) in population--as of July 2004, 22.5 million vs. New York's 19.2 million and Florida's 17.4 million (according to http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004986.html). Yet Florida has more hybrid registrations than Texas, according to the R.L. Polk data in the original post.

Therefore, Florida's per capita registrations (0.601 per 1,000 population) must be greater than Texas' (0.428 per 1,000 population).

TN

i think we need to look at smaller areas too. i have little doubt that the Olympia areas concentration of hybrids far exceeds san francisco's 1 in 444. there would only have to be about 175-200 to match that number. if including local governments and fleets in the area, the density would be easily double.

On this note... the city vehicles in Santa Monica include at least 12 Rav4EVs (that I'm aware of). Pisses me off knowing I missed my chance and the city got so many of them. They also run a number of Ranger EVs, and they used to have a fleet of EV1 and EVPlus before those were recalled and crushed. There are twenty four free charging stations in the city, which is four miles square.

The remarkable thing is that the city is in heated negotiations with Toyota to purchase all remaining Rav4EVs as they are returned at the end of their leases. They've put together a maintnance staff to service the vehicles without any Toyota support.

The traffic enforcement fleet includes a number of Gen 1 Prii, but I think the city fleet is attempting to go EV only.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tempus @ May 12 2006, 10:28 AM) [snapback]254213[/snapback]</div>

I'm kinda suprised... San Diego has some of, if not the highest gas prices in the country. What I can say is that I've seen a huge increase in Prii on the road in the last month, so maybe the statistic is changing. Now there is hardly a day that I don't see 2-3 or more in any given parking lot.