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Trade in 2010 P3 for a V?

Discussion in 'Prius v Main Forum' started by Prius_for_me, Apr 8, 2012.

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  1. Prius_for_me

    Prius_for_me Junior Member

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    I looked at the V thinking I'd like more cargo room, but the mileage was less. I commute 50 miles RT daily. What MPG are you getting?
  2. Wanderer

    Wanderer Hybrid neophyte

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    catgic Master & Commander Hybrid Guru

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    Prius_For_Me – The Hybrid Synergy Drive, gas-fueled 1.8-Liter 2ZR-FXE (ZVW30) "Atkinson-Cycle" I4 power plant, and running gear in the 2012 v (vee) Wagon is the same as that of your 2010 3G Sedan Hatchback, with the exception of final-drive ratio being changed from the 3.27:1 in the standard 3G Prius Sedan, to 3.70:1 in the v.

    Cd DIFFERENCES: The Cd of the v (vee) wagon is 0.29, and is 0.25 for the standard Prius 3G sedan, a 16% difference. At travel speeds of 45 MPH (~72 km/h) or below, this 16%difference in Cd is a wash on fuel economy contribution. The Cd difference only starts to have a significantly noticeable impact on fuel economy at speeds ≥45 MPH (~72 km/h). At typical Max Posted Highway-Interstate Travel Speeds, air friction is about 50% of total resistance, so this 16% Cd difference increases fuel consumption by around 8% at those speeds. Drive faster, and the penalty will increase more.

    If the profile of your daily 50-miles round trip commute is such that it has more “Highway†travel speeds (i.e. traveling at ≥50 MPH (~80 km/h) with the 1.8-Liter I-4 fired up, running, and consuming fuel) rather than mostly “City†(i.e. <50 MPH (~80 km/h) with mucho running in ECO/EV/REGEN Modes & ICE OFF (i.e. long periods of Zero Fuel Use), the running fuel economy of the v (vee) will be approximately 4 MPG less than what you are logging in your 3G sedan.

    If your commute has more “City†travel speeds and traffic conditions in it than it has “Highway,†the running fuel economy of the v (vee) will mostly match the running fuel economy of your 3G sedan.

    Toyota did everything right in the Prius v (vee). The v (vee) is a “Caddy In A Kimono,†whereas, the 3G Sedan is not. The "v" (vee) has "v"ery excellent OEM instrumentation, delivers more "v"ersatility and "v"ery comfortable driver seating along with "v"ery good driver road "v"iew perspective "v"isibility, plus "v"ery good fuel economy and "v"oluminous passenger and cargo interior space.

    FWIW FYI: Driving my 2012 Pv5ATP “Hybrid $mart†in moderate outside air temperatures of 50°F to 85°F (10°C to 30°C) consistently delivers low-to-mid 50s MPG in “City†driving, and mid-to-high 40s MPG in “Highway†driving to me. :plane:
  5. Xjaddiction

    Xjaddiction New Member

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    I traded my P3 2011 after only 4 months of ownership and 11,000 miles, for the V. I don't regret it one bit. My wife still has her P3 2011. I compare them regularly.

    The P3 is a great car, I got 53 mpg 70-80* weather we had in early october. The V gets 46-48mpg same temp, same driving style... i just drive it. Avg. speed 75MPH highway, and miles per day, about 75 HWY, 40 miles in the city.

    Hands down the V is more comfortable, even in my base model V. The ride is incredible, and very different from the P3. My trade in loss over 4 mos. was $1000.00. The V I purchased for $25,500.

    I have an Expedition 4x4 EB loaded, that used to be our family travel vehicle. The P3 I tried to family travel 400 mile trip one time with my wife and two daughters ages 8, and 13. It was ok, but I didn't make any more trips n the P3. Long trips were done in the expedition. BUT, the V took the Expy's travel duties. With the rear reclining seats, and extra luggage room, the V is a fanastic traveler. And loaded recently on a trip with 4 guys and luggage for the business weekend tip, I averaged 42 MPG on an 810 mile round trip. We were comfortable, and cruised half the trip in the mountains of east TN and North Carolina at 75-80 MPH.

    The V is a great car. I'm glad I made the trade.
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