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Discussion in 'Gen II Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by findlj, Aug 12, 2006.

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  1. findlj

    findlj Junior Member

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    I'm considering a new prius and have read and heard rumors about very high tranmission/transaxle repair costs- to the tune of 8 grand! As much as 5K for the part(s) and 3K+ for labor. Does anyone have in information on this?
  2. richard schumacher

    richard schumacher shortbus driver

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    I don't think we've heard of anyone who needed a transmission repair, outside of warranty or insured accident repair...?

    Consumer Reports confirms anecdotal reports that these things are highly reliable.
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    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(findlj @ Aug 12 2006, 08:21 AM) [snapback]302062[/snapback]</div>

    The Prius has no transmission in the normal sense: no clutch, no shifting gears, no torque converter, no clutch bands. There's not much to go wrong. I've never heard of a Prius needing a new transmission.

    Tom
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    There have been some transmissions replaced, in both Prius models. The number seen on all the internet groups is in the 10-15 range total. Some of the message threads did not end with a final explanation by the victims, but my general impression is that even for the out-of-warranty vehicles, Toyota ended paying at least part of the cost.

    Based on the slimmest of evidence that dirty, contaminated, or deteriorated fluid may contribute to failures, experiments are now underway by PriusChat members and others to see if an added fluid filter is an appropriate add-on. Even without that, it is worth considering replacing the fluid on some long interval like 60 to 100 k miles.

    Call it what you will, the Prius transaxle/transmission/CVT/PSD/HSD seems to have a lower maintenance cost for the average user than does a conventional automatic transmission.
  5. findlj

    findlj Junior Member

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    Thanks for the updates!
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    bwilson4web 03 and 10 Prius

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    Hi,
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(findlj @ Aug 12 2006, 07:21 AM) [snapback]302062[/snapback]</div>

    One 'do it yourself' reported the change took a little over 40 hours of labor. He replaced his with one from a salvage vehicle. I've seen the prices of engine-transmissions going for $1,000 on Ebay. As for labor, well I'm paid at $50/hr so $2,000 seems a fair price. I think you could find a shop to do it for less.

    A better approach that Doug alluded to is avoid the problem in the first place. The earlier, NHW11 (01-03 Prius) model appears to need more owner attention than the NHW20. However, all mechanical vehicles need some TLC. Changing the oil in the NHW20 on a 60,000 mile interval is 'money in the bank'.

    I also want to echo the comment that a Prius transmission is God's gift to simple. It has a few more moving parts than as a manual transmission yet the convience of an automatic. It has a fraction of the number off parts of an automatic and it much more efficient. The fewer parts there are, the fewer the failure modes. Better still, the smooth electric power reduces the vibration load, another bad-thing ™ mechanically. Finally, it doesn't have a separate cooling loop and near as I can tell, doesn't need one.

    http://hiwaay.net/~bzwilson/prius/pri_T_cold.html

    Bob Wilson
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    galaxee mostly benevolent

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bwilson4web @ Aug 15 2006, 11:59 AM) [snapback]303535[/snapback]</div>

    well, while i don't know the details of the diy, keep in mind 2 factors. 1: in a shop the time will be a flat rate thing and not dependent on how long it takes the tech to do the job as much as what the allotted time is in The Book... the only 40 hour job DH has ever done was the first complete teardown, diag, and rebuild of one of the new truck engines- much more intensive than tranny replacement, and 2: $50/hr is a pretty lowball estimate for dealer labor rates, around here you're talking at least $80 and i've heard higher elsewhere.
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