Post pictures. Pictures are worth a 1,000 words. I have posted pictures of wear, leaking and a horrible fit. F8l has only had his mats for a few weeks. He has proven they will leak and I predict after a year he will see that the will show signs of wear and they will warp. Why would anyone invest money is a poorly designed mat? It is not rocket science to design a mat. WeatherTech screw this one up.