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Wheels get Rust-welded Onto Hubs

Discussion in 'Gen II Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by kenmce, Sep 10, 2008.

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  1. kenmce

    kenmce High Voltage Member

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    Had to change a flat tire the other day. Found that the rim had rusted itself solidly onto the hub. Took off all the lugnuts and the wheel *would not* come off. Knocked the car right off the jack twice kicking at the stuck rim.:eek: After I finally got that cute little spare on I went down to my mechanics. He said steel + aluminium + salt = yes they get stuck. I had them pull every tire and apply Never-seize between the hub and rim on all of them. Hopefully they'll come off without power tools if I need to change another tire.
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    Yep, that can happen with steel and aluminum unfortunately.
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    Patrick Wong DIY Enthusiast

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    Did the mechanic have trouble freeing the other three wheels from their hubs? If so, what technique did s/he use?

    Do you have the tires rotated at 5K mile intervals? If not, maybe that would help to keep the wheels from bonding to the hubs.
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    I have had this happen even with steel wheels on steel hubs and we don't even get (much) rust around these parts.

    One trick to get it loose:

    With the lug nuts loose but still on the studs, carefully lower the car to put weight on the wheel and let the weight of the car break it loose. I did this on the Toyota truck that we used to own after beating on it with the BFH and prying on it wouldn't break it loose.
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    If that doesn't do it, loosen the lug nuts (but keep them still on the studs). Lower the car, and SLOWLY AND CAREFULLY drive it backwards and forwards 10 feet or so. If that doesn't separate the wheels from the hubs, you're way screwed!
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    Galaxee (Prius Tech) wrote that the best way to remove the wheel is to grab a board (I used a three-foot 2x4) and hold it across the inside of the tire whilst you bang on the board as hard as you can. Worked for me when I rotated my tires.

    How do I know this? When I removed the lug nuts and the wheel wouldn't come off, I started banging on it with a rubber mallet. After a few whacks, I went inside and came here to find out what kind of damage I was doing to my tire.

    Unfortunately, when stuck on the side of the road with a flat, you most likely have neither a 2x4 or a rubber mallet. That part just stinks.
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    Patrick Wong Did the mechanic have trouble freeing the other three wheels from their hubs? If so, what technique did s/he use?

    Didn't watch. Counter guy said rubber mallets.

    Do you have the tires rotated at 5K mile intervals? If not, maybe that would help to keep the wheels from bonding to the hubs.

    No, it takes me a long time to drive 5k miles. Had similar issue on my gen I Prius, used paint on both surfaces, sold it before I could see how it held up in service.

    Dogfriend
    With the lug nuts loose but still on the studs, carefully lower the car to put weight on the wheel and let the weight of the car break it loose.

    It fell off the jack onto blacktop, didn't come loose.

    Kohnen
    If that doesn't do it, loosen the lug nuts (but keep them still on the studs). Lower the car, and SLOWLY AND CAREFULLY drive it backwards and forwards 10 feet or so.

    Thought of that, was afraid I'd destroy the tire, scrape up the underside even worse than usual.

    TonyPSchaefer
    Unfortunately, when stuck on the side of the road with a flat, you most likely have neither a 2x4 or a rubber mallet. That part just stinks.

    My thought too, thus the never-sieze.
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    Wow, I just can't imagine the wheels getting into that state,
    since I have them off fairly often and everything in there is
    kept nice and clean including the brake innards.
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    _H*
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