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Lifetime cost per mile

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by Rhino, Dec 7, 2009.

  1. Rhino

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    I did some calculations, based on the cost of the car, maintenance, insurance.

    The car - assume depreciation to zero after 6 years/100,000 miles. See paragraph below.

    The maintenance - I assumed that it would be the residual value of the car after 6 years 100,000 miles.

    Insurance - 6 years.

    Gas - assume 43 miles per gallon lifetime. Not too optimistic but I don't want to paint too rosy a picture.

    Other cost - accident, tire puncture, new 12 V battery, all included in depreciation and/or the 43 miles per gallong.

    Tax - not calculated because it is difficult.

    Results: My guess is that the Prius III will cost me 31 cents and some tax per mile .

    Please show me your calculations.:)
     
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    usbseawolf2000 HSD PhD

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    Prius will last a lot longer than 6 years / 100,000 miles. Your HV battery warranty won't even expire yet.
     
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    Well, I guess mine will be much more considering MY WIFE IS DRIVING IT TOO...;-)
     
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    Really? In the UK the HV battery is only 5 years/60,000 miles. this sucks.
     
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    I am not a math major. I am assuming that after 6 years and 100,000 miles, the car would be worth about what I put in as maintenance. That would assume 20 oil changes, three sets of tires, and leaving a small margin for 30K, 60K and 90K mantenance including transmission fluid changes, radiator fluid changes, etc.

    In my calculation I did not budget anything for maintenance so I am thinking like I am borrowing money against the car for all maintenance. When the amount of money I borrow is equal to the value of the car - which I assume is 6 years and 100,000 miles, I give the car back to satisfy my debt. That's my unscientific model for "using up the car in 6 years." If you throw in a few car washes, the cost of floor mats, etc, a new 12 volt battery, cabin filters, water pump etc, I figure it is about right.

    I see another thread with the calculation of a Prius II that it can go down to 22 cents per dollar.
     
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    My 06 has 112k miles. KBB said it is worth $10k for private party. I bought it for $24k plus tax.
     
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    I traded my 05 w/50k for 12,700. Cosmetically was in need of TLC, otherwise one 12v battery, tires, oil/regular maintenance. I think it was around 24-25k new. Well worth every cent and loving the 2010!
     
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    The day you sell or bury your car, is the day you can calculate $/mile. Me, I'm hoping for 300k on the odometer.

    All these hypothetical calcs do really is point out how much it costs to exchange cars rather than keep the car until it is ready for the grave.
     
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    I always think about keeping the car for 200,000 miles but something always happens. Like I got married, I have a family. I am sure by the time the car is 6 years/100,000 miles I'll have to trade up. While I don't need a fancy car to impress people, my clients would probably worry about me if I don't own a respectable clean and modern car.

    It's like my business suit.
     
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    I'm surprised, In Australia Toyota just increased the warranty to 8 years, 160,000 kilometres on all Prius, new and old. I thought this was global.
     
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    Congratulations. Nice. 28.8 cents per mile. So why am I interested in this number? Say you calculated that it is 30 cents per mile. Then you would not drive another mile to buy gas that is 5 cents cheaper because a 10 gallon fillup saves you 50 cents and driving 1 mile there and 1 mile back actually cost you 60 cents.

    Or if you have to drive 10 miles to a movie theater for a date, the tickets better be $6 cheaper because it cost you $3 to get there and $3 to come back.

    All these calculations can be done if you know the true cost. If you don't know, you have to trust your gut instincts, which could be wrong.

    That dollar cup of coffee, 2.5 miles down the road, actually cost you 2.5 miles there, 2.5 miles back, 5 miles total = $1.5 in gas. So the dollar cup of coffee is actually $2.50 a cup.

    The worst number, when I am zipping down the road at 75 miles per hour is really $22.50 dollars an hour. That's after tax. So you add income tax, social security, sales tax (on gas), it is actually $30 dollars an hour.:eek:

    A lot of people are into hypermiling to squeeze an extra 5 mpg out of the car. I practice smart driving/combining trips etc to save the most money overall.
     
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    I hear this repeated often, that sales and 'business' people have to keep up appearances. I consider myself very lucky to have escaped that fate. I'm socially required at work to be personally clean and neat only. No ties, no cuff-links, no brand name clothes, or jewlery, or watches etc. As for cars, it is something of a standing joke at the hospital I work at that the physicians drive either jalopies or luxury cars, but beaters are more common. It just seems accepted that the beater owners spend or save their money elsewhere, and no aspersions on their character or competence is assumed.

    Oh -- just to be back on-topic: as you might imagine, I don't have many cars to my history to settle up TCO/mile, but my Honda Civic cost about 18 cents/mile. It is the only car that left prematurely, under duress, so that my wife would agree to the Prius.
     
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    Uhh..

    Nothing to do with the movie choice ? :rolleyes: Or the date :rolleyes:

    Joking aside, I'm not cheap, but I am quite frugal. I find that my desire to conserve for enviro reasons meshes with my frugality nicely. I'll also point out that your base calc is misleading, because a large part of a car's cost is not mileage dependent. Obvious examples include insurance, damage from exposure to the environment etc. If you look at a used car price chart you will see that mileage corrections to price are far from linear; in fact, the weighted importance decreases as the car ages.