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JP 2010 Prius Plug-In price: 5,250,000 yen

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by ken1784, Dec 10, 2009.

  1. ken1784

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    Note for the US people:
    Therefore, this price information applies to Japan only.
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    A JP site scooped the JP pricing, 5,250,000yen before government incentive.
    5,250,000yen Prius Plug-In : too expensive!

    It is almost US$60k. :eek:
    The expected government incentive will be 1,320,000yen(US$11,700) which is a half value of price difference between the normal prius(2,360kyen) and the plug-in(5,000kyen) before tax.
    It means the Plug-In premium is 2,640kyen(US$23,400). :eek:
    People are feeling it's too expensive.

    edit: the official announcement will be held at 11：25 or 14：30 JST on December 14th.
    Prius Plug-In introduction event

    Ken@Japan
     
    #1 ken1784, Dec 10, 2009
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    If one plug-in takes the number of batteries needed for one or two additional, regular Prius, and the price is about right. The choices:

    • One Plug-In Prius - 2x regular Prius battery capacity ($50k)
    • Two regular Prius - each with 1x Prius battery capacity ($50k)
    Bob Wilson
     
    #2 bwilson4web, Dec 11, 2009
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    A regular Prius, a Hymotion pack and TheForce as my teacher for PHEV driving lessons. And I'll save $10,000.

    Wayne
     
    #3 FireEngineer, Dec 11, 2009
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    This makes the Volt a bargain at $40K after tax rebate.
     
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    Especially considering that I thought the Volt was going to be $40k before the tax rebate.

    $20k premium is way too much for Prius PHEV. I suspect Toyota is keeping the price high to limit demand.

    I would expect the premium to be on the order of $10k - what the plug-and-play PHEV conversion kits cost these days. Government incentive should reduce the premium to half that or so.
     
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    This is ridiculous pricing. All they need for this type of PHEV is 4 kWh of onboard battery, and the original 1997 Prius had a 1.9 kWh battery!

    Given that lithium-ion is cheaper than NiMH (per kWh), and you can buy automotive LiFePO4 for around $300 per kWh, there is absolutely no wholesale cost reason why Toyota are pricing this PHEV so high. It could easily be manufactured for no more than $2,000 over the base Prius. Crazy!
     
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    People in the front of the line always seem to be willing to eat the premium for being the first.

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    Just wait until the "is a hybrid cost-effective?" journalists get a hold of this. (shakes head)

    Well, actually, if we consider the BEST case scenario, in which you NEVER put a single drop of gasoline into the car during it's entire lifetime...
     
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    Makes my 2010 look like a bargain even if gas goes to $6 a gallon tomorrow.
     
    #9 mindmachine, Dec 11, 2009
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    Following up this 2010 PHV leasing price for fleet users...

    Rumors said...
    2011 Gen3 consumer version PHV: 4M yen
    2014 Gen4 PHV: 3M yen

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    I believe it's too simple to say that the price of the plug-in Prius should be the price of the 2010 Prius plus the price of an extra battery.
    Toyota did a lot of developement to change different things on the car, like a different way to heat the car or to pre-heat it, and I'm sure they put in some extra stuff, and a lot of testing to ensure safety and durability. Cannot compare to a Prius with Himotion.
     
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    So, anyone hear of someone converting 2010's yet? I can't seem to find anyone doing it currently.

    The best thing I have found is buying a sigma gte or something like that.. it's an electric kit-car for 20k. It looked pretty well finished, and can get really fancy for 40-50k. lol

    I want my Prius though, love this car. I just want an awesome battery in this sucker, and hopefully they can hack the software like the genII to favor the electric propulsion.
     
    #12 brad_rules_man, Dec 20, 2009
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    $60K for a PHV Prius? I'm predicting that competition from other automakers will influence Toyota to reconsider that figure.
     
    #13 Rybold, Dec 21, 2009
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    i doubt they will reconsider the figure they have for limited testing vehicles ;-).
     
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    I would personally pay $3k-$4k more for option such as this, if it also brings us extra 20hp (at least).... thats just my personal biting point (for 2012 or 2014).
     
    #15 spwolf, Dec 21, 2009
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