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Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by malorn, Jan 28, 2010.

  1. SPEEDEAMON

    SPEEDEAMON Professional Car Nut

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    I love sorts cars and girlfriends even though I'm married. Sports cars are better because they do not complain as much. A Lotus has always been a motorcycle on 4 wheels. Its a sophisticated go cart with creature comforts.
     
  2. hyo silver

    hyo silver Awaaaaay

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    Sounds like we're in at least partial agreement about cars and girlfriends. They should both be built for speed, not comfort. :p
     
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    SPEEDEAMON Professional Car Nut

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    Wow, I did not think PC had any real super car buffs. I have only sat in the Evora. I also like the Tesla model S.

    The ultimate upskirt car is the Mercedes 300SL. I've had lots of fun at car shows.

    If you're worried about the cost of maintenance, then don't buy a super car. A major service on a Ferrari is north of $5000. Also don't ask how many mpg you get. Just enjoy driving it. The experience in drving any of these cars is well worth it. Just becareful that you do not become Michael Schumacher because you're not and unless you have driver training, taking these cars to the limit can be disastrous. Most of us will drive them 70% which is plenty exciting enough.
     
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    Toyota? or Nissan.

    ... and turn into pizza . . . . afterward.
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  5. a_gray_prius

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    The Evora is a little easier to get into because the siderail is a little narrower. I really don't mind getting in an out of the Elise/Exige (though I wouldn't want to get caught in a rainstorm needing to get in one.)

    I've spun my Evo enough times on the track to know how bad a driver I really am even though it is a bit of a 'hero' car (it is also quite humbling to get your nice person handed to you by a guy in a CRX).

    Regarding supercar maintenance costs, this is enlightening:
    Sports Car Market Magazine > Can You Afford to Drive a Ferrari?

    Also:
    http://www.secretconsulting.com/cost-of-ownership-of-an-exotic-car/
    The car itself is relatively* affordable. The maintenance is a killer.

    * for certain values of "relatively"
     
  6. SPEEDEAMON

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    I wrote an article on the Lamborghini Gallardo LP5604S, a great car but ownership is costly. Its like your printer. The cartridges cost more than the printer.

    Check out Beverly Hills Lifestyle Magazine – Your Guide to Luxury Fall 2009 issue.
    To get the maximum performance out of your car, the best way is to go beyond the limit so you know where it is.

    The best handling super car I tested recently is the AMG SLS. I drove several prototypes at Laguna Seca last fall and went too wide in Turn 10 thus dropping my right rear wheel in the dirt. However, the SLS with traction control and ASR on was easy to steer and accelerate out to the last corner. The incredible 48% front 52% rear weight balance they were able to achieve help this car with a very manageable great handling car. The engine is powerful and plenty of torque. It's fast and the brakes are fantastic.

    Although I do not like the styling, I would love to have this car if I had the money. Theses were pre-production prototypes but they were well assembled and the build quality high. After I sat in the seat, I could not reach the door to close it. They told me the production cars will have a strap of some sort. Very impressive.
     

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    #1: Look at the benefits!!!! !!!


    #2: I'm really enamored with the "lightweight sports" concept. I'm a little sick of driving cars that weigh a trillion pounds, regardless if they have a million horsepower or not (needed to achieve reasonable performance). I will never ever ever buy an AMG as a result. I suppose it has something to do with me getting my nice person handed to me by a CRX, huh? :D

    Good write-up BTW.
     
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    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    I used to drive a CRX. I loved that little car.

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  9. a_gray_prius

    a_gray_prius Rare Non-Old-Blowhard Priuschat Member

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    You would have loved it even more if you had a B-series engine swap and coilovers with remote reservoirs. In fact, you probably would have out-cornered everything (and out-run a lot of things) on the road.

    Regardless, I forgot to mention that I was cross-shopping the GT-R, CTS-V (which I've heard many good things about), the Evora, and an M3.
     
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    That would require a repair before turning into a pizza.
     
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    SlowTurd I LIKE PRIUS'S

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    FORD should be changed to Flaming On Road Dead
     
  13. malorn

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    You guys are brutal.
     
  14. vegasjetskier

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    I thought that was Found On Road Dead.

    My personal experience with Fords has been Fix Or Replace Daily.

    Of course the Ford aficionados like to say First On Race Day.
     
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    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    My only Ford was very, very reliable. It was a 1994 Ford Aerostar, which I sold last year. No major problems, no big ticket repairs, and only a little rust on the rocker panels.

    Does that mean all Ford's are great? No. It's only a single data point, but it is a positive data point. I would have bought a Ford Focus instead of the Prius, but the price/mileage/features mix of the Prius was unbeatable. I did start by looking at the Focus, which says something about my Ford ownership experience.

    Tom
     
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    DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!!

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    i, also have had good luck with Fords and still have my F-150 (not sure why) and have a lot of family that works for Ford.

    but at the time, i went shopping for a car, the Prius was the best option available. and the extra cost (on my first Prius, i basically paid $3,000 more for it than i could have paid for a "regular"car) was weighed and discounted as a non issue.

    plus, i was excited over the new technology (back in 2003) so i did it. that was my mistake. like any other powerful drug, as i gained intimate knowledge of the car, i became addicted.

    soon, my Pri was taking up more and more of my time. the next thing i knew, i was subconsciously making excuses to be near my Prius even when i had no where to go. i started with a support group to work on my problems, but it soon became apparent to me that it was more than any support group could handle and the entire support group was soon as addicted as me. look around if you dont believe me... we are kidding ourselves if we think we are ok with this.

    next thing i realized is my need began to grow...one Pri was simply not working for me. i needed another. i got another Pri for personal threesomes behind closed garage doors. i would travel across the country to participate in Pri orgies with large groups of Pri's...

    HELP ME PLEASE!!!
     
  17. malorn

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    Prii orgies? Wow that is a strange visual. How can I help you?!!!!!!!!! A new ford in the driveway?
     
  18. PazPrius

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    I also almost bought the Ford Focus but the mpg's on Prius are crazy. My Prius parks right next to my 06 F250 PSD and my F150. Trucks have their job and my Prius has her job, and each job is different. My Prius can't tow my 30' fifth wheel but my F250 doesn't get 49 mpg's.
     
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    hyo silver Awaaaaay

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    Sure; a GT40 would be nice. :)

    And there are towns where F150s outnumber everything else combined, or so it seems.
     
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    That was NOT an orgy! :nono:

    Just what we need - that sort of rumor going around...