How to get a synthetic extended performance oil filter

Did he elaborate why he was "surprised" to learn of the change?

 

You loose from 3/4 to 1 litre (the oil in the filter and housing). It doesn't siphon out of the crankcase. Do it after the car is off for at least an hour and you will be sure most of the oil is in the oil pan, where it can't drain out of the filter mount.

Note that the oil filter study found most filters were essentially "used up" after 800 mi. Used up meant mostly plugged such that most of the oil was flowing through the bypass. I'm sure this would depend on the engine, and I'm sure he wasn't using a Prius, so YMMV.

 

That is a really good point David. So if you only change your synthetic oil every 10,000 miles, maybe one should change the oil filter every 3,000 - 5,000 miles.

Keith

 

You could also just get a TRD oil filter; they sell for around $12-$14. In fact, I just received one I ordered (see photo)! The TRD part number is: PTR4352090

 

Looks more substantial, but what can you tell us about the specs of the TRD version that make it not get clogged with particles as quickly? Is it a direct swap for the paper filter (same housing)?

 

I second that... just because it is more expensive, doesn't mean it is more effective. Be great if it was though.

 

This TRD oil filter is the TRD oil filter for 1.8-liter engines, replacing p/n 04152-37010 or 04152-YZZA6...

I submitted my photo, and the part number, as a suggestion of a synthetic "extended performance" oil filter element, currently available.

Next, I reject the notion that "most filters are essentially clogged by 800 miles." Where did that come from? What clogs all these filters?

Finally, in general, synthetic filtration media are more efficient filters than non-synthetic media. Does that lead to lower wear? Potentially, but the difference is probably not going to change the useful life of your car engine, in my engineer's opinion.

Why'd I buy the TRD filter, then? It looks cool! (Too bad it's hidden inside the filter housing [I'm being sarcastic here]). Actually, I wished a synthetic filter media for my second-oil interval, as my engine continues break-in.

Now, if anyone would like to sponsor me for oil analyses, I'd be happy to send two oil samples for two OCs, comparing filter media types...

 

If they ARE clogged at 800 miles, then why even have them? I agree with you that doesn't sound right.

Hope Toyota will comment further on this filter issue. I'd be happy to pay for the synthetic filter in order to have fewer oil change chores. Just don't know if its even needed.

 

Cool. Now there is an alternative to paper filters. Too bad I already bought 10 regular toyota filters from ebay recently. Now I have to use them up quick before going TRD.

 

I learned long ago about the reality of metal dust and particles created during the first 5000 miles that a new engine "wears in".
The engine typically 'wears' as much within that initial 5000 miles as it will over the next 50,000 miles. For this reason changing the oil and using a better filtration media, as in synthetic media over paper, is a worthwhile investment IF you are intending to keep the vehicle for a long time. If you're dumping it at 'Lease End', the next owner can worry about how much wear you inflicted on his car. It isn't your problem. You never actually 'owned' the car. The Lease company did, and they couldn't possibly care less once they pass it along.
I tend to either keep my cars or sell them to relatives, so either way I strive to protect the investment with better products like 100% synthetic oil, and Filters that remove finer particles, and hold them in greater quantity. Incidentally oil filters do not clog in 800 miles, they clog depending upon the contamination of the oil. New engines having more particulate or vehicles used in dusty conditions would need more frequent oil filter changes. Oil filters have also generally gotten smaller on new vehicles. My sisters Subaru Forester has a smaller filter (about a 1/2 pint capacity) than my John Deere Lawn Mower with only 2 cylinders.

The TRD filter is simply a wise precaution for us who keep these cars and don't off load them every few years.

 

I just read something about this somewhere. Oh wait! I remember!

So, pretty much what I've been saying -- But I repeat myself... :couch2:

 

Is Toyota going to switch to longer lasting filters now that the official interval for oil and filter change has been extended to 10,000 miles/1 year?

 

This is great! A genuine Toyota synthetic media oil filer for the Prius. Awesome!

Rumple

 

Isn't the official interval for the oil filter change also now 10,000 miles/1 year?

 

Gosh, let's file suit and demand a recall to require Toyota remedy this situation. You know, in fact, when I changed my OEM paper oil filter element, I noticed it seemed to suddenly accelerate when I dropped it into the local filter recycling bin. And yes, I can duplicate this phenomenon!

 

Of course it is.

 

I guess my question is are they switching to a different filter now that the interval is 10k miles? I had first oil change at 5k miles so would the current filter (installed before the new interval was announced) last 10k miles?

 

An even Better Question is:, " If the Engine gets damaged by severe wear, or a bearing fails at some point after the warranty kraps out, who pays for it, and was changing the 4 quarts twice as often a better and less costly maintenance ? ?"
Toyota is in the business of selling new cars. Making cars that last so long may be one of those things they kinda wish:Cry: wasn't quite so true. 10K is a lotta wear, a lotta metal particulate suspended in the oil, especially if the filters the usual paper one. Oil's cheap, motors aren't.:yo: