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  1. octavia

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    I have food allergies, one of which is life threatening. It can lead to some unwelcome excitement from time to time. My dangerous allergy is to sesame seeds so buying breads, eating in burger joints, and Asian restaurants are a challenge. I've only had sushi twice in my life which is a disappointment because I really love it.

    Friday night I bought some frozen pizza from the grocery store to share with the kids and their friends for dinner. After eating it I started to get sick so I re-read the ingredients to see what I had eaten, and there in the fine print I saw that the meat on it was made partially out of turkey. I'm allergic to poultry too so figured that must be it.

    I did what I could to slow down the reaction and then waited a while. I decided to eat some nice bland bread to feel better so fixed a wheat english muffin. Of course this time I read the ingredients twice.

    I got sicker. My reaction started to turn a bit scary and i had to get a bit more aggressive in how I was treating it. I found my epi pen and kept it close by just in case. It was really frustrating! The wheat muffins have very few ingredients listed all of which I am pretty sure are safe for me so this means either they are lying or I'm developing a new allergy or ??

    Well...

    Today I went to fix the muffins for the kids and noticed small seeds in them. I am furious!!!!!!!!!!! There is no mention of seeds in the ingredients at all. The most suspect ingredient is wheat gluten. I have always known wheat gluten to be a flour so don't think that is it.

    These are small blackish seeds. Either flax or black sesame seeds. If they are sesame, I'm one lucky girl. If they are flax, I would guess I've developed a problem with it too.

    I know mistakes happen but I'm getting really tired of those mistakes risking my life. One of the barriers I deal with is people who don't take my allergies seriously. I've had waitresses blow me off before, behaving as if I were just being a prima donna. I've left more than one restaurant without eating the food on my plate because of that.

    I don't even try to eat Asian, or in restaurants who have seeds on the buns.

    I'm not sure how to handle this. I'll never buy this brand again, but that doesn't seem like enough. I need to address this... if I had reacted full force, I could be dead now. That means someone else could die if they don't fix this problem.
     
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    I have a friend at work who has severe eczema and food allergies and some of the people there just don't get it either. One of my close girl friends has a little boy who has a life threatening peanut allergy.

    Food allergies are real and life threatening. Not the result of picking eaters......all ingredients MUST be disclosed as well as other items made on the machinery. Trader Joe's includes the latter, more other companies are starting to do it but there needs to be more done.

    Take care of you O!
     
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    Tiny round black seeds are poppy seeds. Sesame are larger and flattened. But apparently there is black sesame. I've never seen it but Wikipedia mentions it. Wikipedia also says that 5 to 13 people out of 100,000 are allergic to sesame.

    A labor-intensive solution is to bake your own bread. It's really not difficult. Just time consuming. Or you could buy a bread machine. I've never used one so I don't know how they compare to the manual method. I'm conceited enough to assert that I can make better bread than any machine. But I'd bet any experienced bread baker could do the same. My particular trick is having my own flour mill capable of producing a very finely-milled flour from whole grains as well as from beans or even corn. Only wheat has the gluten for a superior elastic dough, but the others, especially beans, add distinctive flavors. Black-eyed pea flour adds a very pleasant and distinctive flavor. But it's strong and has no gluten, so just a little is best.

    Sesame seeds are popular but really have no flavor. Poppy seeds have some flavor, and caraway seeds, traditional in rye bred, have a strong flavor and are good in any bread, with or without rye.

    Unless you have a wheat allergy, begin your bread making with mostly wheat flour, and only small amounts of other flours for flavor. The very best is hard red spring wheat, for its high protein content and strong gluten. The best spring wheat comes from North Dakota. I used to buy 50-pound bags of it right from the grain elevator.

    The very easiest bread to bake is unleavened pizza dough: Hard red spring wheat, finely milled, salt, and water. Mix it, knead it, roll it out thin, and cover it with your favorite toppings. Then toss out the mozzarella and use sharp aged cheddar instead.

    For leavened breads you need to learn the niceties of yeast, which are very particular but not hard to master. With experience you can move on to breads with less or no wheat if that's your inclination. The new-age crown seems to have a dislike of wheat, but wheat has the most protein of any grain, and to my tongue, has the best flavor and texture. So I always baked wheat breads, with never more than about 10% other flours for variety.

    I quit baking bread because I could not restrain myself from eating altogether too much of it. But when I was poor, back in rural North Dakota, I baked all my own bread.
     
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    Thanks Salsa! Yes, my son has an allergy to walnuts that he has had since babyhood. We just his blood retested and his numbers are down. The Dr. offered to do an office test ( feed him walnuts in the office and see what happens) but my guy turned him down. He would rather just avoid them and keep his epi-pen handy than risk it. Can't say as I blame him. I'm not interested in risking it for either of us.

    This food lable does have the extra bold print added to say: Contains wheat and soy ingredients. I'm wondering if it's just a mistake that they ended up with seeds in this batch? Either way... it's a pretty serious mistake for me.
     
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    I'm not sure which health authorities to report this to, but do preserve the evidence. There have been many food recalls caused by unlisted ingredients. Perhaps it is time for yet another.
     
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    To clarify:

    I'm very aware of the different shapes and sizes of most common food seeds. My life depends on my avoiding them. These are either black sesame seeds or flax seeds. They are baked into the muffins and given how allergic I am to sesame, I'm not willing to dig them out and wipe all the bread residue off to get a better look. Either way they have no business in these muffins.

    I am an accomplished bread baker.

    I also work 30 hours a week, attend graduate school, single parent 2 children, and maintain an active addiction to prius chat. I don't have time to bake bread on a regular basis. On special occasions I'm known for my traditional wheat yeast bread, or for a quicker bread; Focaccia topped with olive oil and rosemary. I even make a pretty fabulous blueberry muffin.... Now I'm hungry! :)

    I've also adhered to a wheat free diet in the past, so am familiar with alternative flours. Garbanzo flour is a personal fav.

    I've used a bread machine before, I'm not a fan, just as easy to do it yourself and the bread is better.

    I think Quinoa has more protein than wheat btw. ;)
     
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    I'm glad to hear you're alright.

    I'm not deathly allergic to anything, though I have been hospitalised several times for digestive issues, so I can appreciate your scare. I'm far more careful now, and try not to eat bread at all. No way am I trusting my life to a list of ingredients that says "may contain...." Restaurant selections are pretty limited, but fortunately, like you, I'm a good cook. That's the only way I can be sure of the ingredients.
     
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    But no gluten. I like quinoa cooked, like rice. But I still prefer wheat as the bulk ingredient for bread.
     
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    You haven't used the right machine, or if you did, you didn't use it properly. At the very least, you can use a good machine to simplify the mixing, kneading, and first raise. The King Arthur Flour test kitchens use a bunch of Zojirushi machines. King Arthur's test kitchen staff claims they have never found anything that kneads as well as the Zorjirushi, including the ever popular Kitchen Aid mixer and your Mark 1 human hands.

    I use my Kitchen Aid, my hands, and two bread makers - I bake a *lot* of bread. For our normal, eat it every day bread, I make it and bake it in a Zorjirushi BBCC-X20.

    Tom
     
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    My wife is allergic to peanuts and I have learned from her profound and sometimes anaphylactic reactions that peanuts, peanut oil, or trace levels of peanut fragments and dust are hidden ingredients in more products than you would expect. Sadly, this means that she does not enjoy eating at restaurants. The bright side of this serious and under appreciated problem is that we probably saved enough money, over the past ten years of not eating out, to buy our 2010 Prius.
     
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    I have a Zorjirushi rice cooker... this is a brand I'd look at for anything else, as the rice cooker is amazing! :)
     
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    I can see a bread machine doing a single-stage sort of bread: put in the ingredients, knead, let it rise, bake. Any bread that's fresh will be better than any store-bought bread. But I used to let the yeast activate for a while, then make a sponge and let it rise and fall overnight, then put in the rest of the four and knead, let rise, then punch down, knead again, and then rise and bake. Oh, and rising always done in a warm oven over a pan of boiling water, for warmth and humidity. I got a nice light loaf using 100% whole grains. Simpler methods generally either give you a dense, heavy loaf or require the use of some white flour.

    Again, any fresh bread will be better than any store-bought, so machine-made bread will be good. And of course easier than hand-made. But I suspect that hand-made is always going to be better than machine bread if it's done right.
     
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    Even the cheapest bread machines go through multiple raise cycles. Generally they use three raises, with a punch down after each raising. Because the conditions are tightly controlled, good bread machines do a better job raising bread than does your average human home baker.

    There are two differences between machine baked bread and oven baked bread:

    1) Oven baked bread generally has a better shape, assuming the baker knows how to shape a loaf. The bread machine can't pick up the dough ball and stretch it into shape, so the load will often be a tad less uniform and have a bit more texture to the surface.

    2) Bread machine loaves have a slot or slots in them from the kneading paddle or paddles. The Zorjirushi is nice in this respect, in that is uses two much lower paddles. Using two smaller paddles improves kneading while minimizing the intrusion into the loaf.

    Of course a bread machine can only bake loaves the shape of its baking pan. Any specialty shapes require hand shaping and oven baking as usual. Even so, for one or two loaves I will let the bread machine make the dough, and then hand shape and oven bake. For larger batches I use a Kitchen Aid or Hobart mixer.

    Tom
     
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    It makes a great "spanish rice" dish. I use beef in it but of course you could easily substitute tofu, or leave out the additional protein source.

    I stand corrected again. I have never used a quality machine, only the cheapy black friday deal they had a few years back. Perhaps I should look into this Zorjirushi brand. It is getting very hard to find store bought bread that I can eat and the stuff they sell at my favorite store, our local co-op is the worse. Apparently health nuts LOVE sesame seeds. :sick:

    Good point! I've found a few "safe" restaurants to go to so I can't claim that one. I do understand the anxiety that come with eating out though. A lot of people don't understand, including my x-husband. He and his family were with me when I had my last big reaction. At first, my allergy wasn't that bad, but I didn't know I was sick from an allergic reaction ( all my allergies are adult onset) so I kept eating them, and having worse and stronger and stronger reactions.
    The worse one was after I ate at a chinese restaurant. I used to love to eat the shrimp dipped in sauce and then sesame seeds. I'm allergic to shell fish too...
    I became very sick. My body was literally covered with hives. My x husbands family thought I was overreacting to insist they take me to the ER. Once there, the Dr. took one look at me and gave me epinephrine. He told me I was having an allergic reaction and helped me start to reason out what it could be. My x and his family still thought I was over reacting and didn't believe me when I told them I thought it was sesame I was allergic to.
    It wasn't until I saw the specialist and he tested my blood that they would believe me. They still think I'm over reacting though.
    I love your new profile Picture Rae. You look so.... sexy! ;)
     
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    I've been reading reviews of the Zorjirushi bread machines on Amazon. Everyone loves them. Then I noticed a post in the forum section of the smaller Zorjirushi machine: 100% whole wheat bread won't rise properly. Of course, they're probably using store-bought (coarse) w/w flour, and I use home-milled fine w/w, but still, this is a concern. So for now anyway, I won't by buying a bread machine.

    I eat too much bread when it's home-baked anyway. :(
     
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    I've had an allergic reaction to shellfish - four days of the worst experience I could imagine.

    I don't touch shellfish. I understand food allergies, believe me! If we do a potluck, I'll remember to get a list, okay?
     
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    My stock day-to-day bread is 100% whole wheat bread flour to which I add 85 grams of bulgur cracked wheat and 30 grams of bran. This bread has so much fiber that I call it "mulch bread", with the obvious reference to landscaping mulch. It rises beautifully in my Zorjirushi machine. I've also have used a Breadman machine with good results, but they aren't as rugged as the Zorjirushi.

    With my mulch bread, I can use the whole wheat cycle and get a fluffy, lighter consistency, but to be honest, I like my whole wheat bread to have more texture and be fairly dense but moist. Because of that, I make mine with the standard bread cycle.

    Daniel, if you do end up getting a machine, let me know if you want any pointers. When you are working by hand, you can adjust the process to fit the ingredients. With a bread machine, you have to adjust the recipe to work with the machine. It's not hard, but it can be frustrating if you have no experience.

    As for store bought whole wheat flour, some stores have King Aurthur whole wheat bread flour. It is quite good for a major brand.

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    I have family members so allergic to seafood they can't even go swimming without having a reaction. :rolleyes:

    Potluck around here is usually done by putting everything on separate plates and letting people pick and choose. As soon as things get mixed together, even as a salad, that can be a problem. There are too many lists to possibly keep track. I admit to being one of the 'fussy' ones, but it's not really by choice.
     
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    We mix it all together and let nature weed out the weak.

    :D

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    Yeah, my birth family tried that on me until I smartened up. :)