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HV Battery Failure.... please help

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Technical Discussion' started by sciencekit, Feb 17, 2010.

  1. rfelley

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    I've got a 2005 battery on my shop floor that I removed from my August-wrecked Prius. I've been meaning to put it in my replacement Prius to keep it charged but just haven't gotten around to doing that. If you aren't in a hurry, you could wait until I determine if it's servicable, or if you want, you could pay shipping and find out if it's any good on your nickel, then pay me the fair market price if it does you any good. Also, I'd suggest you get another opinion on your battery as that is a very rare failure. Were you watching battery stats on the display? Did it seem Ok, then fail suddenly? If so I'd suspect some other component is at fault. Check in with the tech portion of this site on these questions.

     
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    We are still willing to pick this up if you give us an address and time we can get it.
    Call us at 919-774-4037 or send me your number and I will call you.
    [email protected]
     
  3. sciencekit

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    Thanks, everyone. I installed the reconditioned unit from Re-Involt, and all seems to be well now. Including the 12v battery for some reason. Only thing wrong now, and it might just be coincidence, is since all the headlight flashing from "maintenance mode", the passenger side headlamp is dim at start-up, then just turns off after a few seconds. Guess I need to replace that now. Jeesh. Any suggestions?

    My mpg has yet to rise back above 40 mpg, though I have only been driving it for a morning with the new traction battery. This whole "hybrid experience" has been craptastic. Seriously doubt I will buy one again. I could get the same mpg with a Honda Civic... without the extra headache and expense.
     
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    Do you have HID headlights? If so, it could be a failing bulb.
     
  5. sciencekit

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    As far as I can tell, they are HID. Guess the only way to be sure is to look at the bulb. The ballast is mounted on the back of the housing, correct?
     
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    You have 145k miles. Remember that on a normal car, you probably would have had to have the transmission repaired at a similar cost.
     
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    Not sure what cars you have been driving, but before I bought the Prius, I had a Honda Civic with ~245K miles before I sold it, and all I ever did was change fluids, brakes, one wheel bearing, and one two timing belts. My 4Runner, has almost 380K miles, and maintenance with it is the same as the Honda, except instead of timing belts, I have replaced the timing chain once, and shocks.

    This will be my last hybrid. I bought a Toyota for longevity. If I wanted a major repair at 145K miles, I would have bought a GM or Chrysler.
     
  8. Patrick Wong

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    Besides the traction battery and the HID headlight, have you had other problems?
    True, the complexity of the Toyota hybrid system does not lend itself to longevity without the occasional repair now and then.

    If you bought a GM or Chrysler there's some chance you would have had your major repair well before 145K miles... :cool:

    Now that you've restored the 2004 to operation (other than the HID bulb) do you plan to sell the car or are you going to keep driving it until the next failure happens?
     
  9. sciencekit

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    The first problem with the Prius was the inverter coolant pump, which failed back in the Fall. Occasional repairs are normal with a vehicle, but I am accustomed to occasional repairs with a normal combustion engine.... which are much less pricey than the occasional repairs that pop with the the Prius hybrid system.

    Hopefully, since I replaced the traction battery, that will be the final major hybrid repair... or at least for a few years... as there are also the normal vehicle wear and tear items that will eventually fail. Unfortunately, to cover this repair, I had to borrow from my 401K to pay for it. I just crossed the monetary threshold in a vehicle's lifespan where I have sunk just enough funds into it, that now I am stuck driving it into the ground in order to see a return on my "investment". Not to mention, the cost of those repairs have begun to bite sharply into the fuel savings I have gained while owning a hybrid.

    I have heard from other Prius owners that have over 300K miles on their Prius without any major problems.... some without even changing the fluids, other than oil and transmission WS lubricant. Guess I was just one of the unfortunate to experience early failure of a Gen2 traction battery.

    I am grateful to be able to ask you guys questions, and receive answers, when my problems have arisen. At least that way I am able to do the repairs myself, and save money. I just wish I had bought a lower maintenance cost vehicle like a Honda Civic (mpg and longevity) or Toyota Tacoma (longevity... mpg when they finally ship it with the 4-cyl diesel option). For now, I will continue to drive my Prius, and at least feel some justification from DIY'ing the repairs. Thanks again.
     
  10. Ogo

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    300 k miles on a Prius without any major repairs is quite good result. Normal expected lifespan of hybrid battery is around 200 k miles.

    Modern turbo charged diesel cars have even lower lifespan before major repairs. Maybe if you get some old school non turbo charged diesel & manual transmission car. But performance and economy in latter ones will suck bigtime.
     
  11. Prefer a prius

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    I recommend you call Mac's Service Center in Ashland, Va
    My co worker had her Prius Hv Battery done there. They even cleaned the car when done and gave her a longer warranty than the dealer offered. I looked it up on Google they have great reviews.
     
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    The OP posted that over two years ago. Do you really think that they still haven't fixed it yet? Or are you just spamming?
     
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    Not a spammer saw it pop up yesterday. HV Battery Failure need help. Not sure why it said that for a current day yesterday. I responded when I saw it. No worries just trying to be helpful. I am new to this forum.
     
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    Ok no problems Prefer a prius. I understand you were just trying to help.

    Spammers often like to dig up old threads. I guess someone probably spammed this thread, which made it current, and then the spam was subsequently deleted. This happens sometimes.

    Peace. :)
     
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    No, they don't specifically check the 12v battery. A standard system check might show slightly low voltage but they might miss it. They did on my 1st gen car. Only found out the 12v was weak (8 years old) after it died in an oil change bay when the tech left the ignition turned on and tranny in nuetral. On 1st and 2nd gen Prius you can check the 12v voltage yourself with the onboard system check feature in the touch display. On my 2002 Prius I have to set the park brake (to keep the DRL's off) and turn the key to acc, tap a certain corner of the display four times and it enters system check. Do a google on this, you should be able to find instructions, that's how I found it. If I recall you want to see voltage stay above 10.2volts?? not sure about that.
    Several times over the years my 2002 Prius has shown hybrid vehicle battery warning lights. A phone call to the service department at Toyota reassured us it's a "glitch" in the early Prius's (Prii). Sometimes a jiggle of the wiring harness on the main battery will solve it. One time recently these warning lights came on because the car was steered tightly into a parking space and then parked on a slant tilting to the left. We moved the car to a level parking spot and the lights went away.