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ABC News report of acceleration issue RIGGED!

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by jmp, Mar 11, 2010.

  1. jmp

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    There's a tach in the Prius?
    Where's mine been hiding?
     
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    Sounds like NBC and the automatic exploding Gas Tank fiasco a number of years ago...

    Why let a couple of minor facts get in the way of a good smear job!!!!
    Anybody can jump the +12 supply at the gas pedal assembly to force it to screw up.

    I bet I could plug Brian Ross into 117 vac and he would not work correctly also......

    Yeah, it's always easier to re-edit the piece to take out the BLATENT errors....and those nasty bits that make your story questionable!
    Shame on you, you just got taken, HOOK, LINE, and SINKER!!!
    Your expert, David Gilbert, is a moron, looking for a fast buck and his 15 minutes!!!

    Makes me wonder what other stories you have "Cooked" for air just to meet a deadline!!!!

    While I realize that ABCNEWS is currently being torn apart, and pieced out for scrap, I hope the "NEW" Digital Journalists, ABCNEWS will be hiring will have more brains and integrity than you have apparently sunk too!!!
     
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    Even worse, they edited their video after being pointed out. I guess traffic keeps coming and they are making money off it.
     
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    While ABC is in the wrong, I have to agree with their assertion that the video doesn't substantially affect the reporting.

    But as discussed in other threads, the reporting is suspect for other reasons.
     
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    here are two good reports showing details of faked tachometer video in abcnews brian ross report

    notice the tachometer revving up while the MPH gauge is at zero and
    notice the dashboard lights indicating the car doors are open while brian ross purports he is driving and experiencing unintended acceleration How ABC News' Brian Ross Staged His Toyota Death Ride - Brian Ross - Gawker

    and then in second "fixed" splice, the tachometer is still faked but showing MPH going from about 10-30mph of a test drive! all the while abcnew purports it is experienced during the brian ross test drive ABC News' Toyota Test Fiasco - Brian Ross - Gawker

    what a fakery by abcnews and the wrongest reporter brian ross
     
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    Tony, the Camry does have a Tach. The dash is the video is a Camry dash.

    Wasn't the point that the whole demonstration was fabricated to look like it could really happen when this was probably impossible? Isn't that what Toyota was trying to show?

    I find it amazing that the press latches on to details like this when the real issue is the basic premise of the video! People are just not paying attention.
     
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    Here is the report from Exponent. Below is the part about the ABC News.

     
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    Personally I like the Fictionalization of our News, FOX News has it down to a science. Maybe we should Explode a Bomb under the reporter and blame Toyota for that too, it'd make for some great TV ! FOX is so good at this they have peopel imagining that George W. Bush was a terrific President who didn't start the unnecessary Iraq War and preside over the Great Recession, and Double the National Debt. I can hardly wait for their next bit of news, "PIGS FLY" tape at 11:00 !
     
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    "RIGGED" is a wild exaggeration of a what is essentially a graphic artifact in the video. For two seconds, ABC showed a tachometer revving in a parked car. They did this because during movement the actual revving tachometer produced shaky video. It's really specious to say that two seconds of video that is basically identical in look and feel represents some kind of conspiracy. Get a grip!
     
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    No it's not a conspiracy, it's is however EXTREMELY POOR JOURNALISM.

    RIP ABCNEWS!!!!
     
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    Graphic artifact? You're too naive to believe that ABC conveniently edited the footage of the revving tach because the actual video was shaky. This is the type of journalism that downplays facts, albeit 2 seconds of it, in favor of a sensational and thought-provoking story. This is what sells advertising for the network and you're the type of consumer that ABC is going after.
     
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    I sent an email to The Walt Disney Company today, parent of ABC, ESPN, Disney stores etc. telling them that as of now I'm boycotting every subsidiary company in TWDC group and any advertiser that might be associated with those companies.

    I will bad mouth all TWDC companies at every opportunity and I will try to keep people from supporting those companies as much as I can.
     
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    Oooooooooooooh, better call my broker first thing in the AM - DeadFish is boycotting Disney. I'm also calling CNBC with a heads up for their viewers to dump their holdings... I mean you have such pull. Hope this doesn't bring the whole market down tomorrow.
     
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    It doesn't matter what effect it has other than for me it's the right thing to do.
     
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    What if it's found out that Toyota has hid evidence of failures, or delays in actions to resolve - would you sell your Prius?

    That would certainly be much more serious than ABC splicing an incorrect video piece into a report that has no real bearing.
     
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    If the video is shaky, leave it off. Why put a fake video of revving in park to create/enhance more fear out of the audience? That's the main issue.

    "Rigged" is the right word because what Dr.Gilbert did simply "emulated" a floored accelerator pedal. So the engine revved as designed. Therefore, it is intentional. There is nothing unintentional about it.
     
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    Not only is it intentional but Dr. Gilbert has been reported to be in the employ of an attorney who has a case pending against Toyota who stands to benefit GREATLY by keeping alive the present hysteria. For example, if people believed (as I do) that much of this problem has been caused by unintentional driver error, this would be a great big non issue.

    What makes this so important is that if Dr. Gilbert really proved something valuable, it would change the life of a thinking Toyota owner. As they say about politics, "This ain't beanbag".

    I personally would prefer objective and even qualified review of such matters, but the heat of the moment does not seem to allow the media (including the Internet) to function that way. It is more "open", but sometimes too like a lynch mob in ALL directions.
     
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    If a person scare the shit out of me (and make me look like a fool in public), I want to beat the crap of that person.

    The anger and embarrassment of the American public now, should be directed toward ABC news, make them pay for it.