I Feel so Dirty: Folder Names with "_" in Front

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Apple pussy posts don't count do they Bra...

I'm just saying...


It's like IT folks saying they know you're an Apple gear guy when they see you put the trashcan on the right corner...





Like that means I'm an apple freak...






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Ha! Back in earlier DOS days, a lot of programs would use .$$$ as the extension for their temp files. The joke is that was programmers' wishful thinking.

Ha... not wanting to turn this into a PC vs. Mac religious war (I'm a PC guy but did work on Mac software for >4 years)... a lot of things on the Mac irk me like poor keyboard accessibility. I use Alt keys to get to menus like Alt F O or Alt F P or Alt T O but on the Mac I'd have use Cmd-O, Cmd-P or Cmd-, or for others w/o accelerators, I have to use Ctrl-F2 + typing a bunch of letters. (Few know about Ctrl-F2). You can't resize windows except using the lower right corner, goofy/inconsistent keyboard focus issues. I disliked the single menu bar for all apps, disliked that there's no maximize button (zoom button behavior is totally YMMV). Enter in Finder renames files instead of opening. Ugh! Must remember Cmd-O or Cmd-Down Arrow. The list goes on and on...

Mac OS X had so many undiscoverable features or ones that make no sense until someone explains them to you... like quickly how to tell what directory a file is in/folder is in (Cmd + click on the title bar then being puzzled as to what it's showing you, until you get it) or the "proxy icon" behavior.

Fortunately, I discovered many of these things via my coworkers and from having to use them for 9+ hours/day, while at the same time juggling a PC or two. At one point, I had 2 PCs and 3 or 4 Macs in my office.

 

VirtualBox is great. When I am forced to run Windows applications that won't work in Wine, I use VirtualBox. I have a virtual machine for each related group of applications, keeping one Windows meltdown from taking everything with it.

Tom

 

That was about as surprising as me pushing Linux.

Tom

 

I have one: The only place you can size a Mac window is from the bottom right hand corner? What's up with dat?

 

Well, you could just pick what you want from the list. And put all the files in folders, with one called 'crap' for all the loose stuff. Or is that simply too "unsophisticated" for the windows fans?

 

The best thing though is the mouse with the scroll wheel that goes sideways as well as up and down. In the past I quickly replaced the one-button mouse with a 3-button mouse, but now they've got a winner. At work I keep trying to scroll sideways and the darn M$ mouse won't let me!

 

Yeah, those were kinda cool in their day.

The new ones are even better: up, down, sideways, left, right, one finger, two...plus, no tail, and no little ball to gum up...magic.

 

I don't understand the problem there. You're complaining that on the Mac it takes one keypress for common things like print or save or open a file while on the PC it takes two keypresses and that's better? Why is quitting a program alt-f-x on some systems, alt-f-q on others, and why is it even in the file menu?

So it's different. I don't see how that's bad. In the PC world there's 3 different places on the menu bar that an application might be opened from, instead of one. If you want to open a directory, you need to click on the tiny little plus sign to the side or run the risk of renaming the directory the instead. On both systems double-clicking too slowly also gets you into the rename option instead of opening it. If I want to rename something, I'll just hit the enter key, I don't need the slow-double-click option (or alt-f-e every single time).

LOL nobody will win this war. There's ctrl-shift-esc, and ctrl-alt-delete was a programmer's secret backdoor until other people found out about it. But Apple kinda made their own little-documented version of that with the control-eject buttons.

These are all cosmetic things. If you want to talk real differences, I really like the intuitive copy & drag feature for burning a CD (now Windoze is picking up on that too), Time Machine backups (once you figure out how to extend the ridiculous default 1 hour intervals) and the easy installation of new programs, no worry about DLLs. There are some things I don't like, like the permission defaults and the very rudimentary parental controls.

 

I'm guessing you used to be involved in the emacs/vi wars back in the day.
So what does the \!* provide? I'm unfamiliar with that part, and in my sample directories it gave the same results with or without it.

 

For all the minor differences and a few slight nuisance features of Mac OS, the real biggie is that Windows and MS in general is a security nightmare. The required security software consumes more of your computer's resources than your application software.

 

Daniel nailed it but I also think that M$ attracts a lot more attention than the Mac OS-X so maybe that speaks to some of the problem. I just got through taking SecurityTool malware off a couple of PC puters. WHAT A NIGHTMARE! I got it removed off one puter as for the other I just gave up and reinstalled the OS. I'd like to track the bastards down that produced this virri and emasculate them. :rockon::cheer2:

 

I have to use MS Access and ArcGIS for some classes that I am taking which means that I have to boot into MS XP to run them on my MacBook Pro. The things that are irritating on XP compared to OS X:

1. XP boots so slow compared to OS X on the same hardware. I'm ready to get started, but XP is still loading crap in the background so I have to wait for it to finish before I can do anything.

2. XP is always trying to update something so a message box pops up trying to get me to "upgrade" to Windows Genuine Advantage (advantage for who?). Invariably I will be trying to update an Access database and a dialog box will pop up telling me the computer wants to reboot and install some update. If I dismiss it so I can finish what I was working on, it will continue to hound me. If I let it reboot, then when it comes back up, I will get half a dozen popups from the anti-spyware app telling me that a registry change has occurred (no shit). Not to mention the little message popups that I have to dismiss each time I print something. Leave me the hell alone already.

3. I use an external drive at school and at home. When I eject it using the Windows taskbar, invariably I get a popup telling me that it cannot eject the drive, try again later. The second time usually works, but sometimes it takes 3 times before it tells me it is safe to remove the drive. On the Mac, right click (control - click) on the drive and Eject disk. Works every time.

 

It's some sort of anti-piracy thing that once you get, allows you to download "free" content from the MS website, eg Office add-ons, etc

Sounds like a job for Dick Spanner though

DICK SPANNER EPISODE GUIDE

Anybody have the number?

 

I hate memorizing single key accelerators/mnemonics (Cmd-K, Cmd-T, etc.) that aren't necessarily intuitive vs. always using Alt + 2 letters to navigate menus via underlined letters. I do use Alt F X but I don't I've ever used Alt F Q. I usually Alt-F4 or Alt F X to close an app and Ctrl-F4 to close a window/tab.

I'd prefer it the Mac had the Alt keys and underlined letters. The only thing that's similar is the very clunky Ctrl-F2 method.

See above, I prefer not to use the mouse at all. I prefer to use the keyboard in many cases.

I almost never click tiny plus signs to open dirs. I use Enter on the PC on or Alt-Down Arrow on the Mac much of the time to open anything. If I even use that tree view, I use the right arrow key. I avoid double clicking. I almost never rename files compared to opening them, why map something that's not used much to Enter? As for double click vs. rename, you got me. I use F2 on the PC to rename or DOS commands. On the Mac, I guess I use Enter.

I never use that "intuitive" feature to burn CDs on either machine. It likely won't yield what I'm trying to burn.. but yes, it might meet others' needs.

No, these are NOT all cosmetic things. There are goofy keyboard focus issues, esp. in Cocoa apps. IIRC, try Cmd-T in Textedit or Cmd-J or some of the other dialogs that can be brought up in Finder and then try closing them via Cmd-W.

I can NEVER remember the rules on Window or Mac for when it's a move vs. copy. What REALLY irks me on the Mac is that you can't right drag files and get a choice. On Windows, I ALWAYS right drag which yields the context menu w/choices for move, copy, create shortcuts or cancel. Can't do that on the Mac.

There are other things that irk me on the Mac. They aren't wrong, but just not what I'm used to/like. Example: In many apps, if you use Page Down to scroll say 10 pages down and then press down arrow, the caret remained on page 1, so you suddenly lose your spot and end on on page 1, line 2. UGH!

I will admit there are some things I do like on the Mac like being able to Cmd-Tab a bunch of times then press Q to quit that app and I do like Expose. The Mac let you point to the app you want to switch to while Cmd-Tabbing before Windows let you do that via Alt-Tab.

 

I agree with you there. The Mac is more mouse-centric, whereas on the PC if you don't have a mouse installed for whatever reason, you can still function reasonably well. Other than that aspect, your points are cosmetic issues.

I agree on this one too. On occasion I've been forced to make copies in the same folder on a Mac, then click on all the copies and move them to another folder and rename them back to the original. I'm sure there's a better way, but I haven't found it (other than having a Unix shell quickly available for those rare cases).

That happens on the PC too, at least with scrolling, on the tools I use.
I like the new small keyboard for the Mac, now I don't have to have the keyboard pushed way to the left to make room for all the special keys and the numeric keypad (at work on the PC I generally keep my mouse on the left so I can type in front of me, I can mouse with either hand). But one set of keys I miss with the smaller keyboard is the page-up and page-down. Ooh, just found that function-up and function-down apparently are the same as the page-up and page-down! Thanks for making me think about these things and experiment a bit :- )

 

Standard Mac rules:

If you drag a file from one directory to a different directory on the same volume, it will move the file without making a copy. If you want to copy the file, hold down the Option key while dragging the file; you will then copy the file into the new directory and leave the original file in the original directory.

If you drag a file from a directory to a different directory on a different volume (e.g. an external drive) it will copy the file to the new directory and leave the original file in the original directory.

I think the easiest way to copy or move files in OS X is to open two finder windows and drag files from one directory to the other.

This works in Windows XP also, but XP will ask you each time if that is what you meant to do.(Yes, as a matter of fact it was so stop asking.) It is easier to copy and paste files in Windows.

You can also copy and paste files in OS X (right click, copy, right click, paste) but it isn't very Mac like. :madgrin: