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Gen1 Prius DTC 3125 & 3130

Discussion in 'Generation 1 Prius Discussion' started by lnwarner, May 24, 2010.

  1. lnwarner

    lnwarner New Member

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    I'm looking to verify information I've gotten from the Toyota dealership about these 2 codes. Barely got it home last Friday evening. All 3 of the major warning lights came on (PS, Main Battery, & exclamation point). Outside temps at that time were around 90 degrees. Car died but restarted after a few minutes on the side of the road. I drove it another 35 miles to my home and it died several more times along the way. DTCs were 3125 & 3130 so dealer tells me today that the inverter coolant pump needs to be replaced. He won't know if the inverter itself is totally fried until the new pump is on and tested. I'm totally freaked now 'cause I've heard the inverter replacement runs around $3700. I just replace the HV batteries last July to the tune of $4000. A new inverter would put the repair costs I've made on this vehicle equal to what I paid for it originally. This is the 3rd time in the last few months that the master warning lights(?) have come on, but the codes were different those times. I've gotten a 3191, 0301, 0302, and 0420. What is the likelyhood that my driving the car another 35 miles killed the inverter? Any information at all will be appreciated since I've only been driving the car about a year and I'm afraid, really afraid.
     
  2. Patrick Wong

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    Once the car has cooled down, see if you can drive it (around the block in your neighborhood, for example.) If you can, then the inverter should be OK.
     
  3. lnwarner

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    Thanks so much, Patrick! I have heard good things about you from other forum members. I drove the car to the Toyota dealer yesterday morning (around 25 miles) with no problems. It does seem to happen only on really hot days. And I commute from Austin, TX to Lampasas, TX for work every day (75 miles one way = 150 miles round trip) so I spend quite a bit of that in stop-and-go traffic. Isn't it ironic that I will be ecstatic if all I have to spend to fix this problem is $500 or $600. But I gotta fix it 'cause here in Texas it's getting to that time when it's hot, hot, hot, all day long. :)
     
  4. jk450

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    The inverter coolant pump may indeed be at fault. However, if you have P3130 with info code 346, and P3125 with info code 264, you may want to read TSB EG023-07, which identifies the inverter itself as the root cause of the issue if it occurs during heavy stop-and-go traffic and/or ambient temperatures above 90ºF. A redesigned inverter cures the issue.

    NOTE: if the info codes are not those described above, the TSB does not apply.

    Keep in mind that the coolant pump itself can fail intermittently. This can make diagnosis difficult. The pump has also been redesigned for improved reliability.

    That is sort of true, and sort of not true. If the vehicle starts and runs normally after the system has cooled, the inverter is probably not damaged at that point. However, it may still become damaged.

    See below.

    If the problem is a lack of coolant flow, there is a very real chance of future damage. Patrick Wong's advice - to assume that the inverter is OK if the vehicle starts and runs after it has cooled down - may lead you to believe that the vehicle can now be safely driven. This is not necessarily so.

    You'll want to first (1) confirm correct coolant level at the inverter's plastic expansion tank, near the firewall, as well as (2) confirm plainly visible flow (Toyota calls it "turbulence") when you remove the tank's cap and peer down into the tank itself. You may need a flashlight to get a good look, and the ignition key must be turned to the RUN position to power up the pump. If the engine is off, you may hear the whir of the pump running.

    Drive without checking this, and yes, you may damage the inverter.
     
  5. lnwarner

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    Thanks for the information. I asked the service manager(?) about the coolant level and the "turbulence" when we talked yesterday morning. He said all that was OK. I didn't get the INF codes at that time. But I did give him the OK to order the inverter coolant pump. So it's possible that after replacing the pump I may still have to replace the inverter? Should I call back and get the INF codes?

    I wonder what the labor on all this is going to cost? They have to pull the front bumper and headlight assembly to replace the pump itself. Do I have to go ahead and replace the pump if the INF codes don't point to that. I mean, since they have already ordered it?
     
  6. jk450

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    Then there must be another reason why the inverter coolant pump was diagnosed as the root cause of the problem.


    Yes, it's possible.

    Yes. At the very least, you may want to advise the service manager of the potential relevance of TSB EG023-07, and let him know that your vehicle was experiencing ambient temperatures above 90ºF, which is consistent with the conditions described in the TSB.

    The time to ask that is before agreeing to the repair. Ask now, if you haven't already.

    If you have signed an agreement to do so, and the car is not yet apart, you are liable for the retail price of the pump. However, if the inverter is not at fault, the pump is the most likely root cause.

    Please note that this is not a diagnosis. It's common for folks on many forums to claim that a part is at fault simply because it commonly fails. If that part does turn out to be at fault, they then claim that they "diagnosed" the vehicle, when in fact they were making an educated guess with someone else's money.