1st oil change at 5k or 10k?

Replying anything to adamace1 is a waste of time therefore a waste of money.

Chaning oil earlier is a joy and a practice of playing to be safe than sorry. I rather go change my oil and have a sense of fullfillment than replying to some one who have no thought of their own and obviously have no common sense. To say anything to him or anyone else like him will be a waste of my time. Why should we proof anything to him? Again waste of our time. I don't see why he is not proof anything to us to show that chaning oil at 10k is the best wear for the engine.

If you read around enough you willl see plenty of people changing their oil way before the 10k requirement.

 

Just because something you are not aware of doesn't mean it doens't exsist.

I never knew a mechanic can make that much either till recently when I was told by my brother how much they were making.

Of course this £100k guy is their super mechanic. He can strip the entire engine and then put it back in half a day. You see they work (atleast here in the UK) on job cards. So each card has a job and it determins the amount of hours an job needs to be completed.
So if striping an entire engine is estimated 16 hour job but he can do it in 6-8 then he earns that 16 hour job in just 6-8 hours. The guy is so sick that his whole hand has gone to surgery many times for over working them.

As what my bro is making he is making about £60k-70k. All this work is all depending on how fast and effecient you can complete your job. As for a beginning when you become an appretice you only get up to £15k.

But yes if you feel that you are very qualified then come over the UK because you don't know what you are missing.

Oh and you think thats rediculous? You should see how much our Electricians or plumers make here in the UK. It will make you cry.

We know first hand a doctor who retried his proffesion and went to night school to learn plumbing and turn into a plumber.

If you don't believe all of this you should ask around other UK members and they can confirm how sick amount of money they can make.

 

That was a different person than me asking for something to back up your claims. We would really like to know if others are showing to much wear with 10k oil changes.

I just wish you guys would show us some proof. Or just be honest and say something like "I change mine early cause i like to do it and want to be extra safe, but you should be fine if you want to follow toyota 10k oil change." Not sit here and tell everyone of us were stupid, dumb, cheap, you sound like a 12 year old that has to call names because you can't back up your claims.

 

Not only a waste of time and money, but of our dwindling resources and our ability to deal with the hazardous waste that's generated!

 

As I originally stated, I was dumbfounded at how much a car mechanic can earn in the UK. I provided wage stats for our mechanics here, which you do not appear to believe

Based on the current exchange rate, 100,000 Pounds is $144,570 US dollars. You typically have to be a doctor, dentist, engineer, accountant, lawyer, etc, to earn that much here

Call it $101,200 a year. A very nice living

Call it $21,000 a year, about what we would expect a beginning mechanic to earn here. But they typically top out at $55,000 a year

No thank you. An an engineer I earn far more than your top-tier mechanics. Additionally, our income tax rate and Cost of Living here is far lower

As an example, around 6 years ago I purchased a building lot and built a house in Winnipeg. Total cost to me was $245,000 Cdn. Around 170,000 Pounds. This house was 1,800 sq ft or 167 m2

That would be rare in the US or Canada

Yes I do believe that. You appear to have a hard time believing that in the US or Canada, doctors earn FAR more than car mechanics, plumbers, or electricians

 

I thought you told us that car mechanics in the UK were highly trained, highly skilled, extremely conscientious, and incredibly highly paid?

Let's not forget that you simply cannot compare EU motor oils, meeting the ACEA specs, to the crap sold here in North America. The API/SAE assign ONE rating, currently SM, to ALL oils sold

They make no distinction whatsoever as to quality of oil, expected severity of service, service interval, or intended vehicle. In the eye of the API, the cheapest generic 5W-30 oil is JUST AS GOOD as the most expensive synthetic you can buy

Which is nonsense

In the EU, even the minimum spec ACEA A1/B1 motor oil is intended to provide 12 month or 10,000 protection under "normal" use. Even this min-spec EU oil must provide protection against cold black sludge, ring land fill, that oils meeting SM do NOT have to provide

The ACEA A3, B3/B4 oils are intended for extended oil changes, and very severe service. These oils have far higher levels of detergents and dispersants to ensure longer service

Manufacturers here in North America can't force you to use their own motor oil. Although Toyota can sell their own branded oil - who knows what it is though - they cannot FORCE you to use it

In the EU, the car manufacturer CAN force you to use their specific oil. Eg, VW to allow 24 month or 30,000 mile oil change intervals, has very specific motor oil requirements.

 

they are that's why i've leaned to do the oil myself, they cost too much money. I used to live in the USA and I didn't need to lean it then. I used to get oil change done for $45.00 but my first oil change here costed me £200($400 then) so I decided to do it myself. Now it's easier since my bro let me use toyota ramps so changing everything is free except the oil because I buy the ones myself since they don't offer 0w20 here.
I am dreading the first oil service because it will have to be done through Toyota so that there is a service history for warrenty and that's going to cost me. Hopefully my bro can sort something out for me. So far is you read some of my threads I get a lot if thing for cheap or free. But for everyone else it is very expensive hence their salary.
And I never said I don't believe you. Doctors and lawywers earn a lot of money in the USA. It's just weird how much some professions earn here compared to the rest of the world.
Btw on top of their rediclous salary they earn extra cash on the side which is tax v free and so their total earnings are a mystey to me. But for my brother his private jobs are almost the same amount of his salary.

 

I'm a new owner of 2010 Prius. The dealer is changing the oil at the first 1000. This is covered by the 25,000 free maintenance.

Is that 1000 oil change standard elsewhere?

 

It actually isn't covered at 1000 miles. Your 2-year maintenance coupons include an oil change at 10K. Any change you have them do prior will cost you.

 

No.

 

So you saying someone that lives near you should do 5k oil changes at a cost of $400. So over 150,000 miles they would pay an extra $6,000???

 

No it won't. The dealer indicated that it is free.

 

Color me surprised...let us know if you have anything in writing that guarantees a free oil change at 1000 miles (also let us know if the dealership actually delivers on what I assume is that verbal promise). I just paid $49 for one (not too shabby) at 1600 miles (hsiaoloc and new yorker made me paranoid enough). Now am I going to get another prior to 5K? That is highly debatable.

 

I never called your breaking apart the filters Bs, but yoy never did the side by side you claimed on oil analysis, you know, and I know it. Which is why you changed the subject to make it sound like I was criticizing what I did not criticize.

 

The Lemming effect

 

Before all you US mechanics start thinking about coming over here for a job, let me tell you, the only mechanics in the UK that may be earning £100K a year are the ones who own their own business. I was in the trade some years ago and got out because the money was poor. Today an employed apprentice mechanic will start on around £15K a year rising to £25-30K when qualified. Supervisory positions may earn up to £35K. I don't know where in the UK hsiaolc lives but it must be somewhere very surreal by the wages paid to mechanics.

 

Again it also depends on which dealer you work for. BNW you won't make much.

In Toyota you will make the money. Maybe being in London also helps.

They work by job card. If you work hard you will earn the money. If you don't or really slow then you will be around 35k.

Each month my bro earns extra over 100 hours of work based on job card.

The super mech earn way more than the Principal does. When the new Principal came he was surprised by how much he was making. But you know what he can't do anything about it. The harder job they throw at him the more he earns.

And again like being a banker. Just becase you are a banking in a certain position doesn't mean all other salaries are the same for the same position in another bank.

Hey but enough of this salary talk. If you don't believe me then don't. ARe you going to also tell me you don't believe plumbing and electricians can earn up to £100k a year as well?

 

I'm away on business so don't have time to go into detail

But if you bothered to use the Search feature, you will find a LOT of used oil analysis posted on this forum. Others have also contributed used oil analysis to this forum

These are side-by-side, so quit the BS calling. Do NOT continue down this path

 

As I said previously, self employed or own business yes, employed by a firm, no.
£100k less overheads.

 

Well I have no need to make up these numbers. I don't make that kind of money. Yes it is unbelievable because I was just as shocked when I first heard of it.

But seeing how much my brother is making I am not that shocked now as to what some of those mechs can make. But like I said it is really not much point arguing about this. I believe the numbers because my bro works there and he doesn't need to lie to me about this either. And after meeting the super mech myself I can see that this guy is hardcore.

All I can say that this dealer is not the norm. Somethings I just can't tell.

All this salary talk has been deviated from the OP topic. Personally is 100k too much to believe? Yes. But it is a fact in my mind so I will continue to believe it. No other mechs I know of makes that kind of money. My bros best friend he used to work for BMW for 6 years only was making 40k a year but my bro got him transfered to Toyota Lexus first and the starting salary for these senior tech was 60k so there as a big jump so I can say that Toyota pays better. Personally I go to the dealers every Saturday just to mess around with them and I can tell you they are elite and very professional. But being a mech is not a easy job as being behind a desk. A lot of phyiscal work and a lot of know how and experience. I have seen my bro at work and they are pretty amazing at what they do.

I can only tell what I see and what I heard from 1st sources and I believe how much they are making because I know how many houses my bro owns and I don't own any. The mech who earns 100k has a £1m house just FYI.

Did you know that we pay some guy £60k a year just pressing a button for the underground? We pay £40+k for our underground drivers with close to 40 days annual leave. Unbelievable don't you think?