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Any tricks to bring back a dead battery? (12v)

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by timtim2008, Jul 28, 2010.

  1. timtim2008

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    I just replaced my 12v batt this weekend.. no biggie..

    But i never take them back to the store to get the $5/$7 credit..

    Is there any tricks to bringing back a dead battery? (im not gonna put it back in the prius)

    but i have tons of them laying around the house... some not too old..

    was going to take them to the recyclers this weekend, after i tried to recharge them one more time..

    some say.

    "1-2 amp trickle charge:
    Up to 400amps cc, overnight.
    5-6-700 cca's, 24 hours.
    750-1000 cca's, 36 hours.
    And if you have any >1000 cca's or 1500's, also some 750-1000's will take 48 hours and to play it 100% safe.
    But most of the 2-3-400 cca small batteries, 12 hours / overnight should be enough."

    i was thinking about using them with a solar system im working on..
     
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    I heard that sometimes people use welding machines to ”kick start” batteries to life.

    Basically this means, that welding machine does not have any electronics for safe loading of the battery. So welding machine just push high current thru the battery and sometimes battery chemistry come enough live to charged with regular battery loader. But don’t do this if you are not familiar with battery hazards.
     
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    Make sure to wear protective gear in case the battery explodes. (It can and does sometimes happen)

    Better yet, turn the battery in for recycling and buy a new one.
     
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    That sounds soo dangerous!
     
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    Years ago, a guy I worked with swore by dropping an aspirin down in each cell of the battery.
    I tried it once, and it didn't work for me.
     
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    um wow...

    now ya'll got me scared..
     
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    the desulfator is your best option for lead -acid. this works well for batteries that have lost capacity due to sitting too much. for any EV'er who is running lead-acid (most of us in the NEV crowd are except for rich peole like daniel who can afford to dump 10,000 into Li batt pack) its pretty common knowledge that this can help add a bit of life to older batts.
     
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    That’s a completely different battery chemistry and in no way applicable to lead acid batteries.

    NiCad (and NiMH) cells sometimes go short circuit, particularly when over discharged, due to crystal growth puncturing the cell barrier. Sometimes a brief but large charging pulse will clear the short, the so call “zapping” the cell back to life. (Dont use a welder that sounds dangerous, I just used a battery charger that's well over-rated for the battery being zapped).

    Yeah it works, yeah I’ve done it several times, but generally the results are pretty poor and the cell is usually never the same. Typically a revived cell will have high self discharge and short lifetime before it goes short again.

    Just take your old lead acid batteries in for recycling, it’s the best thing for them!
     
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    Ditto!
     
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    Yup, don't "bring" them back, take them back to the recyclers. They are chemically irreversibly damaged. Anyone who tells you otherwise should be avoided. LISTEN TO YOUR MOTHER! Those are the people she was warning you about!
     
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