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Tahoe hybrid in the wild

Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by bwilson4web, Aug 31, 2010.

  1. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Ok,

    So we were all in a two-lane, left turn and I noticed an SUV, a flex fuel Ford 150, and the Tahoe hybrid pulled up. Then I noticed the word "hybrid" on the side and when the light turned, on the back. It was subtle as if trying to merge into the paint job but there it was and I remember my friend, a GM product design engineer.

    He was working on a two-mode, Saturn VUE and gave us a test drive. But he mentioned one big management decision was the word "hybrid" would be painted on the doors. Then I remembered how Lutz and CNW Marketing were so convienced that hybrid buyers were overly interested in 'image' and it all came together. Their hubris, their delusions, their rank stupidity . . .

    The Tahoe two-mode had Mississippi plates but I had just lost any interest. I looked at that shack on wheels and realized, 'I don't care.'

    Bob Wilson
     
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    we have a handfull around here. makes me laugh. i call them al gore vehicles. 10,000 square foot house, vacation home on nantucket with the googles, and 'doing their part' with the tahoe hybrid.:rolleyes:
     
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    The California Highway Patrol has at least one GM Hybrid pickup outfitted as a MRE (Mobile Road Enforcement) vehicle. They might have others, but the one I saw was just outfitted last month.
     
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    I've seen a few. I still think to myself: "look, they found another person dumb enough to buy one!" every time. I suppose it isn't too different from my normal oversized-SUV reaction though.
     
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    and to think that our tax dollars are being (mis)used to build and sell these monstrosities...
     
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    Lutz is gone and over time, his direct reports and hires will also disappear or 'get a clue.' I was listening to the AutoLine podcast and they proposed "Fritz Henderson" as an ideal candidate to run GM instead of the current guy who came from telecommunications. I was about to post that he could not be more 'tone deaf' than Lutz but yesterday I fired AT&T's DSL service.

    It isn't a question of skill or background but audio accuity . . . does the manager listen to their customers?

    By attitude, Lutz didn't want hybrid owners and subscribed to 'hairy legged hippy women' image of us (aka., late night TV show, Letterman?) Having decided hybrid owners were not 'the right sort of people,' it was easy for him to insist on the worst possible products.

    Understand I think hybrid technology belongs in vehicles of all sizes and classes. However, a 6,000 pound vehicle needs a hydraulic system more than electrical to handle inertial losses. Regardless, the problem remains and at least one generation is finally leaving the field.

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    priuscritter I am the Stig.

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    it will probably be obvious from this post, but i'm not getting what the big deal is. i thought the hybrid tahoes were better on gas than regular tahoes.
     
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    Not all hybrids succeed.

    Hybrid In Name Only has characterized GM's hybrid efforts:

    • "mild hybrids" - the belt assisted line ended the month Lutz retired. They were expensive and didn't do much for mileage, 1-2 MPG in city, nothing on the highway. The only one that made a little sense were the contruction pickups that could generate a couple of kilowatts of power for tools.
    • Tahoe (and equivalent) two-modes - advertised as this great answer to the Toyota Prius, they really are competing only with Toyota's largest hybrids, typically Lexus, only not as nice but just as expensive.
    • Saturn VUE two-mode - canceled
    So Toyota still sells 2/3ds of all hybrids and GM remains a 'footnote.' Their Tahoe based hybrids are all they have to show for a decade of foolishness. Over priced and under performing, I don't see it lasting much longer.

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    My recollection is that the difference is practically negligible, one to two miles per gallon compared to the non-hybrid version.