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Prius V with ATP rare?

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by Lottamoxie, Sep 5, 2010.

  1. Lottamoxie

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    After seeing the video demos of the V with ATP (which frankly had me salivating) I was curious about the inventory of them. Did a search in my area (SET) and there is exactly one V and it doesn't have ATP and it's not in a color I'd ever want. I then did a search in other areas (VA, MD) and again saw V's but with no ATP.

    I would think the combo of Silver + Misty Gray + V + ATP would be somewhat popular (somewhat = in the scope of those who are inclined to purchase a V).

    I saw one silver/misty/V/ATP in the Houston area.

    Is it that that the V w/ATP has to be ordered and factory-built on demand?

    I think my perfect combo of options would be the V with ATP but without NAV, in silver with misty interior. No such animal, I know, but that's what I would build if I could. Cause I don't need the Toyo NAV feature but I'd like the other tech stuff.
     
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    Well, fly to Houston and get it!! Make a road trip out of it. Houston area has 3 V ATP i believe based on Toyota website...but only with your combo. There may be more. I bought my V ATP and it was NOT on the website...my car was a pre-order that the original person backed out of.

    Good luck.
     
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    That was my impression too when I was car shopping. I would have liked to have seen a version V with ATP to be able to test drive it first. I did several inventory searches of dealerships around the area, but couldn't find a one. The dealership that I wanted to buy from had two Vs, both in sandy beach. Since they didn't have the ATP, they were cheaper then the fully loaded IV. Since getting ATP seemed like a big hassle, I decided the sunroof feature of the IV was better: I also found a color combo that I really liked. IMO, the sunroof is helpful in hot climates like hotlanta!

    LKA and parking would be a nice convenience, but how often would you actually use it? For now, I'll keep my parallel parking skills up to snuff....and figure that those features will become more popular in future generations. It always seems a cycle where luxury cars get new technologies first...then they trickle down to cheaper models when the technology improves.
     
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    DRCC is what I think is awesome and an amazing safety feature (yes I think LKA is cool and the parking assist is nice).

    The ATP is cool, no doubt about it. If one could get that option but without the actual NAV feature, it would be great.

    It's not so much an issue of luxury as much as it is an issue of availability and if you can find it, it's packaged so that you have to take it with other options you may not need or care about. I know that's how it goes in car package bundling, but I see ATP as advanced safety features and those should be available to more trim levels.
     
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    It depends on the region. In Southern California, the V with ATP is the only V combo that's allocated to the region and here the V with no ATP is rare. Misty Gray is also not very frequently allocated to this region. Otherwise, dealers must go out of their way to obtain one at the port en route to other regions.

    I'd actually like a V + ATP but with no NAV but only because of the crappy NAV screen. But then again, Intelligent Parking Assist would not be possible without a NAV screen.
     
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    I'd be fine with the NAV screen...just don't need the NAV system. And if the NAV system could be opted out but still able to have the other goodies (thus saving some $$$), that would be wonderful.

    I realize that's not gonna happen, but a girl can dream, can't she? In the meantime, looks like I need to save more $$$ if I want those goodies.
     
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    I just got a V w/ATP in Blizzard Pearl / Dark Gray in Atlanta yesterday. The dealer had a V w/ATP in Silver /Misty Gray that I took for a test drive last week and it was still there.

    If there is a Team Toyota dealer around where you live, you can maybe ask them to ship/get the vehicle there for you.
     
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    The V + ATP is extremely rare. It is an extremely stupid (no offense) financial decision to be buying a Toyota Prius for the price you can get a similarly equipped Lexus for. ($33k-$34k MSRP). Since most people are smart, dealers generally don't stock this car + package because hardly anyone buys it. Look at the poll on the forum, 3/4ths of Prius Owners have either a II or a IV. If i were you, i'd just wait for a Lexus CT200h if you want to spend that much money.

    The Nav screen comes with the nav system, no other way around. And in order to get the ATP and all that, you need the NAV system. Its a toyota scam to get more money. You need one package to get another lol.

    The only good thing about the ATP is the DRCC (Radar Cruise Control). I hear the Parking Assist takes too long to set up, and who cares about the lane-keep assist. Thats why we all have eyes to tell us if we're in the lane or not.
     
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    No offense, but you really don't have a clue! :rolleyes: And none taken on my part, but i sure wish that you actually do more research.

    Tell me of a Lexus that has ATP for under $40k...see, i am even generous with your "price quote." No, for the price of a V ATP, you get a BASE HS250...one that has no wood, no memory seats, nada. I am not sure if you can even buy a base ES350 for under $35k. And NO, these base models do not have ATP. I see that you use this "argument" before, but you really do need to do your research before posting crap. :eek:

    As for the CT200h, i would bet that you need to spend at least $37-40k before you can get ATP.

    How is ATP requiring NAVI a "scam"?? This reminds me of your uneducated argument with car speakers! :rolleyes:

    And yeah, please read up on ATP before posting again...thanks.:p

    IMO, the extremely stupid financial decision is for II owners not upgrading to III! No offense.
     
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    Of course I don't *want* to spend that much money. I want to spend the least I will need to, to get the most car I can get. DRCC is a fantastic feature and it would be nice to be able to get it on a lower trim model without having to get a whole bunch of other things one may not need/want or, alternatively, move up to a Lexus and even more cost.

    I see DRCC as a safety feature. And it's one that I think is good enough that it should be available as an option on a IV, at a minimum.

    I remember when airbags were considered 'premium' features. And ABS as well.

    As for the CT200h...based on the pictures I've seen I personally think it's ugly. Ugly and expensive.
     
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    The V+atp is good for people like me who are geographically challenged. I can't tell you how many times the nav system has bailed me out from getting lost in places I was not familiar with or just needing an option to get out of a traffic congested area.

    Also, you are correct, the DRCC is very cool. I have tested it and the system will bring you to a complete stop (almost) when engaged. And the LKA has been a life saver because distractions happen (Mr. Ronson) and have alerted me when I got too close to the lane edge. I was glad I had it on as well.

    Over all, yeah the V+atp will cost more. But it has been a very good car for me and I like it alot. Pics below.

    PriusChat Forums - bricor's Album: my 2010 prius v



     
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    You know, even though I didn't spin my wheels (punn intended:D) trying to find a V ATP....I also had to get the Nav system for the package I wanted. I was hesitant about whether the sunroof option was really worth it if all I wanted was the roof and ipod connection capability. I read so many negative reviews of the Nav....but so far I'm not finding it to be that bad. I like some of the interfaces better on other Navs. But, even though this Nav is DVD based, it still managed to find my house (most GPSs don't....even some up to date ones). It also takes me on the highway the way I normally go. Mapquest/google and my other navs have always had me go alternate routes that are way longer. The only thing I don't like about the nav is that its time estimates are way off.

    As far as the worth of all these packages....it's really up to you. You're the one buying it. I personally am not a fan of luxury cars because I think they're overpriced for what they are. But other people will think it's worth the extra expense (for the added performance, bells and whistles, service, whatever). Sure, if saving the absolute minimum is your goal, then some of these trim levels might seem extravegant. But you know, being someone who got the next trim level that's hard to find, I decided to splurge a little as an emotional pick me up. The only person who really has to make excuses for your decision is yourself.
     
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    Agreed. I test drove a 2010 Prius V with ATP a few months ago which the dealer (in WA) had right on his lot.

    At http://priuschat.com/forums/gen-iii.../83455-1-year-sales-stats-us.html#post1165531, Prius Team released some figures about the % of sales by model but it's not separated out by equipment/package.
     
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    Yes, my experience says that Prius V with ATP is rare. I ordered mine in December, and still didn't have it in March. Then the dealer said there was one in a different color coming, and asked if I wanted that one, or to continue to wait another 3 months. I took the one that was coming sooner, and have been very happy with it. The Gulf States Toyota region dealers can check on the shipments for the whole region (TX, LA, AR, OK, MS), so it's not like they only check the inventory in town.
     
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    i got mine by getting it shipped from cali to get the color i wanted. of course i'm in texas so it might be harder from you. but it is doable! (check out the dealer forum for dianne's specials, that's who i got my V w/ATP from).
     
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    Oh in case anyone is confused, I said I was 'curious' about inventory of the V's with ATP. I am NOT buying anything yet because I am determined to get the most out of my current vehicle and it's only got 95K miles.

    In the meantime I am living vicariously through those of you who have got a 3rd Gen and I am learning all I can about the Prius and when the time comes I'll (hopefully) be informed enough to select the right trim level and features for my needs.

    Right now the V has my attention because of the ATP and those wonderful videos one of the PC members created!

    Hence my original question about Toyota building a Prius on-demand, so an owner can get a V in the color combo they want, with ATP (if there isn't any available within a reasonable distance)? Or is it more a matter of you wait until Toyo happens to build a combo that you want and then you try and get it (for those more rare combos)?
     
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    There are many cars out there that have Radar Cruise Control without navigation. There are many cars that have a backup camera without a navigation. There are many cars out there that have a LCD screen, thus allowing those functions without a navigation. No it is a scam, because in order to have a LCD screen in the prius to have such required functions, you need to buy a navigation package. the Gen II prius gave you that screen without navigation. Car speakers? Get over yourself, you're the only JBL fanboy around here. Do you work for them or something? Search the internet and look up the best sound system. There will be plenty of debate among Infinity, Mark Levingson, Bose, Harman Kardon...no JBL is mentioned.

    The MSRP for an ES 350 With Dynamic Radar Cruise Control is $38k. The Average paid price on truecar is $34k......

    Stupid financial decision is to pay $900 for a mediocre JBL system??? Get over yourself. Tell that to all the Prius II owners on the forum, which make up the majority of Priuschat Gen III owners. Its a stupid financial decision to buy a car with fuel efficiency, and paying more money and not getting more fuel efficiency.

    IS 350, BMW 325, ES 350, Infiniti G37, Acura TL...all luxury cars in the same price range as a Prius V. All of those are much better quality cars. You get over yourself and do some research. Posting crap? Who the hell are you? If you dont like my advice, ignore it, moron. Or are you so shortcoming of a man that you can only get off on finding flaws in other people's advice.
     
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    Just to clarify, Infinity and JBL are both subsidiaries of Harman Kardon. I find their speakers to be equal in terms of quality. I have a good sound system for the home, and that's where I'm more critical of my music.....but there's no way you can get audiophile quality sound in any car....period. Not even if the car sticker is stamped with "X premium sound" (where the X is Bose, Sony, Infinity, JBL...etc). The acoustics of any car are just plain bad for serious music listening. And I don't qualify pimping out a ride with monster subwoofers serious music listening :D
     
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    I bought my V with ATP in late June here in Southern Maryland. The dealer didn't have one in his inventory but within 5 minutes of looking on his computer system he found two at nearby dealers (one in Annapolis and one in Virginia) in the color that I wanted (blizzard pearl) and was able to deliver the car to me the next day.

    As for the ATP package, the cruise control feature is by far the best part and I use it all the time. The automatic parking is not something that I will use and the lane keep assist will probably not get much use either. I do like the pre collision feature that will cinch down your seat belt and apply the brakes if a crash is imminent.