What's the bigger social opiate, organized sports or organized religion?

Re: What's the bigger social opiate, organized sports or organized religion?

By far the most powerful voice undermining religion today is its own.

Thank god for that

 

Re: What's the bigger social opiate, organized sports or organized religion?

Godwin's_law in full effect. Pitty the pope of all people falls for this trap. Who in their right mind uses Hitler/Nazis as a fair comparison and arguement for current social issues? Historians are always quick to show that Nazis had many motives and it was not in the name of religion (whether it was Christianity or Athiesm).

 

Re: What's the bigger social opiate, organized sports or organized religion?

How DARE him! It was the Catholic Church who actually supported Hitler and the Nazis at the time.

WikiAnswers - Did the Catholic church support Hitler

 

Re: What's the bigger social opiate, organized sports or organized religion?

He was in the Hitler Youth, I wonder if he also has some personal experience with atheism?

 

Re: What's the bigger social opiate, organized sports or organized religion?

I didn't know the Pope was fond of atheists

 

Is this fact-finding or wishful thinking I associate with right-wing commentators but from another point of view?

Everyone had to join the Hitler Youth, so I don't think you can say Pope Ben. XVI did this freely at all.

Closer to the truth is the Catholic Church failed to be more outspoken against Nazism...they were afraid of reprisals...that is different from saying they supported the Nazis or the Holocaust, which included a significant number of Catholics that opposed Hitler. Include Col von Stauffenberg in the 1944 assassination attempt.

I could see if JPII had been in the Vatican in 1944 calling the Church to take a stand, and Pius IX certainly did not do that....they opposed the Nazis but were too soft. Having said that, The US and UK governments have been accused of doing too little on the Holocaust as they could have bombed concentration camps.

While Hitler was not excommunicated, it should be obvious he was an enemy of Christians in general, Catholics in particular.




The Catholic Church and the Nazis - Did the Church Support Adolf Hitler?

 

Re: What's the bigger social opiate, organized sports or organized religion?

Defend them as you like. The facts of history does not lie.

When it comes to serious life or death issues, the religions (including Islam) always shy away from confronting the evil. The only thing they're concerned is about conserving their own lives and influence over the followers. While the common man willingly give his life heroically to the bitter end, the churches doesn't even dare to say anything against the evil?

So it's ok for the lowly peasants to suffer and die, but not ok for the church to be out of favour of the dictators/terrorists? If a soldier shy away from fighting the enemy, he will be prosecuted or even executed.

COWARDS

He secretly hid (or neglect to act on) the facts of perverted priests and now he's making comments equaling intellectual opponents to the biggest evil dictator in the history of the world. If a politician does similar things he'd be forced to step down from his post by his own party. If the leader of a small religious cult was found to be doing harm to the society he'll be prosecuted and put in jail right away.

If the catholic church and followers still support such a person then this whole religious organisation is just a BIG RELIGIOUS CULT.

SHAME

How dare you claim to be the followers of Jesus who bravely sacrificed his own life just to save your soul! How about try do something righteous to save your own souls and pull down this fake.

(I'm crying)

 

Re: What's the bigger social opiate, organized sports or organized religion?

I don't get bothered by such insane rants.

Don't know why you broadcast this in most of the posts you've made.

You could have at least bothered to read my post and links and look credible.

This is not a discussion thread but a spitting thread in many posts.

Right wing talk shows will state Pres Obama is not a US citizen and is a closet Muslim simply because they hate him...is this how you influence people?

On this thread some hate the Catholic Church, so they are saying they actively supported the Nazis (who eventually planned to destroy it after the Final Solution). Very ironically, this hating is the technique called the Big Lie.

Keep it factual and I will listen...the ranting and BS like the posts I quoted is doing a great job of making your position suck.

 

Did the Catholic Church help the Nazis? Yes and no. However, looking at Hitler's Religious Views, there was one prominent member of the Nazi Party who was Catholic. You may have heard of him, he's a guy by the name of Adolph Hitler.

 

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With comparisons of two the grammatically correct term is "which," not "what."

OK, now I've had my $0.02, how about removing this inappropriate thread.

 

To whom are you referring? Your "up with which I will not put" is not at all clear.

As threads go, it could be worse. Nobody's lost it completely yet, taught us any new profanities, or questioned anyone's lineage and/or parenting.


edit: Well, OK, maybe the "lost it" part is questionable. But we've seen worse, really.

 

Re: What's the bigger social opiate, organized sports or organized religion?

Going back through all the posts in this thread it occurred to me that we never did get an accurate answer to the OP's original question: Which is the bigger social opiate, sports or religion?

Neither. "Reality" TV can numb millions of minds across millions of square miles in a millionth of a second, and keep them numb 24/7 without the assistance of either beer or hymns. If ever there was a more potent social opiate I defy science to find it.