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  1. That_Prius_Car

    That_Prius_Car Austin Kinser

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    Okay, so I am like, really happy. After sitting here and thinking "It will be forever before I ever get my hands on a Prius." Then, 2k1Toaster said something about 80's Japanese imports. Ding ding! I went to Google, typed in "Japanese car imports" and got a website that had TONS of Prius' for sale! That's not the best part though, they had tons of "original" Prius too! DIRT cheap! Cheapest one I seen so far was 1,000 U.S. dollars, and there was nothing wrong! Before I get too excited though, I have some questions. Firstly, how much would it cost to have one shipped over-seas here? Second, is it legal to drive in a right-hand car from Japan here? That's about all the questions so far...I think I want to look for a 1998 Prius G touring. :D I'm already looking.
    Here's one for $2,600. I can find then even cheaper! You should even see the 1999 Toyota Vitz, 95,000km and $995!

    Specifications on the "original" Prius:
    Gas engine - 58 horsepower @ 4000rpm
    Electric Motor - 40 horsepower @ 2000rpm
    Battery type - D-cell
    Battery voltage - 288 volts
    Battery weight - 125lbs
    Hybrid system net horsepower - 101hp
    0-60 - 14.1 seconds
    Top speed - 88mph. (So if I get this car, no more 100mph. :rolleyes:)
    And most important! 66mpg!
     

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  2. priuscritter

    priuscritter I am the Stig.

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    I think there are rules about the right hand drive thing. you'll want to investigate that the motor vehicles department. Also it will cost a ton of money to have it shipped from Japan.

    3:45am post on a school night?? haha
     
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    Well I can't answer all your questions, but I can answer one of them.

    It is perfectly legal to drive a right-hand-drive car in the US. It's tricky if you have to go through tolls where you have to hand the money out the left-side window, and it takes some getting used to driving from the 'wrong' side of the car.

    You do have to be careful of any regulations regarding importing of a car not built for the US market - there may be emissions and safety items that have to be altered before you can get a valid title/registration from your state. Many years ago there was a story about a man who won a Lamborghini in a contest, but the import and conversion fees were more than he anticipated, so he wound up not getting it at all...
     
  4. danvee

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    Pretty neat find, but not too practical...

    Some years back I had worked with a company that imported non-US cars for sale here.

    The deal was that:

    a) all emissions and safety features (especially glass and bumpers) must be brought into compliance with US specs of that model year.

    b) the importer was fully responsible to implement the above within 1 year from date of import.

    c) if a & b aren't satisfied, the vehicle, after 1 year, must be returned to country of origin, removed trom the road or destroyed.

    That's the way things were in NJ as of about 10 years ago. As this is subject to Federal, not just state, laws, there may not be a lot of difference state to state.

    Add to this the probably stupid-expensive shipping costs, not to mention the Customs paperwork..........

    Sounds like more trouble and expense than it's worth, but I'm sure that you can find a local importer to give you the specifics.

    So far as the right hand drive part: check out your local mail trucks:eek:

    Good Luck!
     
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    Hm, well say I spend $1,500 on a Prius, and I have $2000 left, should that cover the shipping? Sorry, I don't know much about shipping and stuff. :rolleyes:
     
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    That_Prius_Car Austin Kinser

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    As long as the car isn't maybe $4000 to send, then I think it might be stretchable, and something my dad could work with, plus it would be a very neat project. :)
    Haha, I stay up late.
    I don't attend school anymore, I'm getting my GED in the spring, and after that, I'm staying in college for a 2 year degree, and after that, I'll see where I'm at. :cool:
     
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    Yeah haha.
    Our mail trucks, and cars have a wheel for right hand drive, but they also have a left hand steering wheel too. :)

    Well, I hope laws have changed since then, it would suck if the car got shipped here and it didn't have the right windshield or something and they had to send it back.

    As for the shipping, if I pay $1,500 which can get me a good buy, and a pretty nice 98' model with navi, so I wonder if $2000 would cover it. Or if there is a shipping company we can choose that might do it cheaper.

    As far as it passing emissions, I think it should do that with ease. Pfft, it's a Prius! :rolleyes: Not only that, but I think I herd that they got better mileage than the NHW11 model. 66mpg to be exact. I don't know how realistic that is, but we'll see.
     
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    As I recall it's not a simple matter of "passing emissions", but a list of safety and emissions equipment that the vehicle has to have to make it match the US-specifications for crash-worthiness, etc. You might get some information from the following link
    motivemagazine.com - Motive Drivers Ed: Amazing Greys - Importing Those Rare Cars You Always Wanted

    or other links you can get by googling for importing non-US cars.

    If you pursue it you will surely learn a lot, which is also worth something.
     
  9. a_gray_prius

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    I think looking at the classic tuner-world unicorn as an example is useful in your case. This 'unicorn' car is the Nissan Skyline GT-R. If you look at the massive effort people have put into importing JDM Nissan Skyline GT-R (R32, R33, and R34 models) you'll find that importing JDM cars into the US is no small feat. The first company that did it, Motorex, ended pretty much going down in flames. Kaizo, to my knowledge, has gone a similar route. The storylines are very interesting, however, if only to see the amount of passion people put into these cars.


    There's More Than One Way To Get a Classic Nissan Skyline GT-R in America

    eBay Guides - How to Legally Import Register Nissan Skyline

    Importation and Certification FAQ's Directory--Appendix

    That said: If any of you knows how to hook me up with a street-drivable R34 V-Spec (any type) that isn't going to get confiscated, I'm interested.
     
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    This may or may not help you in the US, but there's a company here called Japanoid that specialises in importing older Japanese vehicles and certifying them for use here. I've seen quite a few driving around town.
     
  11. That_Prius_Car

    That_Prius_Car Austin Kinser

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    This look's nice, but I didn't see any original Prius' at all. Not even a hybrid. Could I buy the car and it could be taken there and have the parts swapped? Or what could I do? If I had the car shipped to Virginia Beach or somewhere in that area, and I was there when the ship arrived, could I be there and bribe the man who inspects the car to let me have it?
     
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    I don't know how things work where you are, but I rather doubt bribing is even worth thinking about. I thought maybe the people at Japanoid could give you some advice on importing. But, there should be plenty of used Prius in the US to choose from. If you're *that* desperate, you'll just have to find a boyfriend with the car you want.
     
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    Canada has a 15-year rule which allows JDM vehicle older than that to be imported without restriction (as I understand it). The rules are different in the US.
     
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    That_Prius_Car Austin Kinser

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    lol, no on the boyfriend thing. ;)
    I know there are lots of used Prius' here, but none for the price these are being sold at. Plus, these are really cool, their the ORIGINAL Prius. They have different specs than the Gen.I over here because those are like the Pre-Production Prius' sold only in Japan, so if I got it, i'd have a one of a kind. I can most deffinetly afford one of those Prius' over there and have $2000 dollars left over, just the thing is getting it off the ship and in my hands, and if I have to, take it to my local body shop and have some parts changed to meet U.S. standards.
     
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    Example of another awesome priced Prius.
    $1,538.
     

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    Here are the official rules from the US gvt concerning importing a car:

    Vehicle Importation and Certification Requirements

    The cheapest shipping cost that I've found is $1800 from Japan to Los Angeles.
    Your extra costs would be transport from wherever the car is in Japan to the port of shipping, the US Customs fees, and cost of transport from Los Angeles to your location (it can't be driven as it's not a legal vehicle).
    After all this, you still have to meet all of the US standards of pollution control (no real problem there) bumper, crash, lighting and safety standards for the model year of the car.

    BTW Looking at the guide on the above website, the Prius is not on the initial list of "importable" cars....
     
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    If you had money to burn and your heart set on some unobtainable foreign exotic, then importing a car might be feasible. But to spend more than the car is worth on shipping and modifications that may not be approved, for a car that's already available here, simply doesn't make sense.
     
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    Well, I know that the car is available here, but everyone here want's a lot of money for them. In example, I'll get on AutoTrader, and search 2001-2003 Toyota Prius, most are 6-9k dollars. So I type in my price range, 2-3k dollars, and all that comes up are Prius' that have between 160-210k miles and the lights are a yellow foggy color, and they just look like they would have problems. Their just A LOT cheaper over there. If I can get a 1998 Prius for $1,200, like these:

    Toyota Prius [ tradecarview ]

    Toyota Prius [ tradecarview ]

    Toyota Prius [ tradecarview ]

    Toyota Prius [ tradecarview ]

    Compared to this Prius that was the only one on AutoTrader that had no accident history, has 100,350 miles, and a bad battery pack, and cost's $2,999. Even the salvaged one's are over $1,500, and their wrecked so bad that some can't even drive! I'd try buying a 1998 Prius for $1,000 dollars, but before I'd buy it, I'd make sure that my DOT would certify it, and state farm insure it, and get a title. If I can get the car, I can have it inspected and if something needs to be changed, my best friends dad (Doug) has a body shop, and he can order the new parts if need be.
     
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    I'd say it will pass everything though.
    They didn't change much when they sent them here in 2001, the only real change was the horsepower and the MPG. The crash test's are good. Here's a picture from a NHW10 Prius crashing in a old brochure I downloaded.
     

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    I guess that the only thing left is to actually start to contact the involved parties and gather the needed information and costs, as none of us here (so far) is an expert on this subject. Otherwise it's only out-of-left-field speculation on our (collective) part.

    Once you get all of the info, please post back here with it. I'd be very interested in the specifics, especially the shipping and federalization (if needed) costs.:thumb:

    Good Luck!