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New Remote Start or go for OEM Remote fob?

Discussion in 'Generation 1 Prius Discussion' started by justkyle, Oct 13, 2010.

  1. justkyle

    justkyle New Member

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    Hey all,

    Midori just came with an only-lonely one key. I see the OEM remotes come up all the time on eBay, but I am interested in hearing whether or not anybody has successfully done a remote-start kit with the Gen 1 Prius, and if so, which would be recommended for/against, etc.

    I know, I know, I should've just done a search.

    Kyle
     
  2. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    I would recommend getting a second key and key-fob made ASAP. My last pair were bought on Ebay, the key was uncut but also needed car recognition. The keyfob just needed a new battery and car recognition.

    Bob Wilson
     
  3. justkyle

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    Currently bidding on a keyfob for the 02 on fleabay.

    In other threads, it mentioned that once some button on the fob had been pressed too many times, it couldn't be programmed again, is that correct, or is it some stealership theme to get people to pay $$ for brand new fobs and keys?

    I reckon, even this "lockout" wouldn't survive the battery in the fob being replaced, would it?
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    What happens is the car 'learns' the fob 'seed' and uses a parallel, random number scheme to check the code sent by the fob. Random clicks away from the car can cause a gap but the car is smart enough to check if it is within a known range of acceptable values. It then resynchronizes and all is good.

    It has been a while since I last worked in that area but we're talking hundreds, possibly a thousand before the gap gets too large. This is really not a problem.

    It is more likely that your one and only fob or one and only key will get lost. Then you are in deep doo-doo.

    The car uses a known fob and a complex set of door and control operations to go into 'program mode.' Then it can learn a new fob, tossing the oldest one out. Up to three fobs can be known. Also, up to three keys can be known . . . or that is my understanding.

    Seriously, if you only have one key, buy a cheap, equivalent blank and get it cut for the mechanical lock. Once you know the mechanical part works, program the key. The same is true for the keyfob.

    A couple of months ago, I misplaced one key and fob, leaving only one pair. So I ordered a blank set and taught the car to recognize the new fob and key. About three weeks later, I found a pair of pants for the laundry and sure enough, there was the missing fob and key. Now I have three sets. <GRINS>

    I did this in 2010 so the thread describing what I did should be fairly fresh.

    GOOD LUCK!
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    Got outbid. I'll try again...