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RAV4 EV available in 12 states in 2012

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by thbjr, Nov 16, 2010.

  1. thbjr

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    Well, at least according to Reuters. Here is what was said:


    LOS ANGELES | Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:04pm EST

    LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Toyota Motor Corp (7203.T) (TM.N) will limit initial sales of the electric RAV4 to those U.S. states that have mandates for zero-emission vehicles, Toyota USA brand sales chief Bob Carter said on Monday.
    Carter said sales of Toyota's all-electric vehicle will be expanded as demand grows in states that thus far have not adopted the zero-emission vehicle mandate first passed by California state regulators. The RAV4 to go on sale in 2012 will be built with a powertrain from Tesla Motors (TSLA.O).
    Carter, speaking at the Reuters Global Autos Summit, said Toyota sees hybrid vehicle as offering more -- and less expensive -- options for consumers and will continue to be the centerpiece of the worldwide auto sales leader's focus for alternatives to conventional gasoline-powered vehicles.
    Carter said Toyota wants to maintain its leadership as the U.S. market retail sales leader, which he said may be made easier in 2011 as a shift in sales increases will favor retail over fleet sales. Toyota's fleet sales are less than 10 percent of its overall sales, about a third the rate of U.S. automakers General Motors Co GM.UL and Ford Motor Co (F.N) and about a fourth the fleet sales rate for U.S. automaker Chrysler.
    Carter said that 2011 will show an increase of about 1 million in new vehicles sold, matching the 1 million-vehicle increase this year. Toyota just finalized its forecast for 2011 and expects the U.S. auto industry's light vehicles sales to be between 12.5 million and 12.9 million, up from near 11.5 million this year and from 10.4 million in 2009, which was the worst year for U.S. auto sales since the early 1980s.
    "If the industry grows 1 million units this year, about 600,000 units should be retail and 400,000 will be fleet," Carter told the summit in Los Angeles. "On a percentage basis, retail will be up 5 to 6 percent and fleets will be up 20 percent.
    "Next year, we see growth being more on the retail side," said Carter, who added that consumers remain cautious but are slowly returning to new-vehicle showrooms.
    "You'll see our fleet sales go down, in terms of total volume and percent," Carter said.
    (Reporting by Bernie Woodall, Nichola Groom, Lisa Baertlein and Kevin Krolicki; Editing by Phil Berlowitz)


    Link is here.
    Now, which 12 states have passed zero emissions laws?
     
    #1 thbjr, Nov 16, 2010
  2. Paul58

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    I'd be more interested in a Hybrid RAV-4 just because it doesn't have the mileage limitations inherent to an EV...
     
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  3. usbseawolf2000

    usbseawolf2000 HSD PhD

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    These are the states that use CARB emission standard:

    New Jersey
    Connecticut
    Oregon
    Washington
    Rhode Island
    New York
    Maine
    Massachusetts
    Pennsylvania
    New Mexico
    Florida
    Colorado
     
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    Any idea if we'll be able to get collision avoidance?

    Phil Long Toyota, 3019 Toupal Drive, Trinidad, CO 81082

    1,143 miles to

    Huntsville, AL 35802

    PLAN A

    • Pre-arrange purchase - ~two years to go
    • Fly->bus->taxi - get to dealership with papers
    • Complete deal and take possession
    • Drive to Raton, NM - get out of the state
    • Pre-arrange - rent U-Haul small van and vehicle trailer
    • RAV4 on the trailer
    • Drive home
    PLAN B

    • Pre-arrange purchase - ~two years to go
    • Electronic/fax complete purchase
    • Pre-arrange car shipping pickup
    • Deliver to Huntsville, AL

    PLAN C

    • Pre-arrange purchase - ~two years to go
    • Ship 220 VAC generator to dealership
    • Fly->bus->taxi - get to dealership with papers
    • Complete deal and take possession
    • A series of 120-150 mile segments with charging stops (1,200/300 ~= 4-7 days)
    Bob Wilson

    ps. Why not 506 mile, Jacksonville FL? SouthEast Toyota Region but it is worth asking the local dealer if they can keep the 'port cr*p' off the car.
     
    #4 bwilson4web, Nov 16, 2010
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    Bob part of the reason for staggered roll out is that they won't have any mechanics trained in the other states, so if something goes wrong you will be sol. On most things some dealer will help arrange the shipping, but don't you think you should make sure of the specs and cost of the car and competitors before you plan a 7 day trip from colorado?

    Note another part of toyota's planned roll out seems to be political, otherwise it would include good markets that are not in the California directorate sphere of influence. Bowing to Sacramento when you have plants in Mississippi and Texas in place of Nummi in freemont may not be the smartest move.
     
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    precisely nothing that you wrote made any sense :)
     
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    Good reason for buying the shop manuals too.

    Thanks!
    Bob Wilson
     
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    Looks like they will be assembled in California rather than Canada (the current RAV4 is assembled in Woodstock Ontario). Probably because that's where almost all of them will be sold (the US).
     
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    what about getting an inspection sticker:confused:
     
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    I live in MS not AL, but here you can get a annual safety inspection sticker for $5, you will not have to start the car, turn on the lights, run the wipers or run the signals. If your entire windshield is cracked, they won't pass you, but that is new in the last two years.

    AL may be more diligent.
     
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    The shell will be assembled by toyota with the other RAV4s. The batteries in Palo Alto, California by tesla. Tesla would like final assembly to be done at the NUMMI plant in California.
     
    #11 austingreen, Nov 17, 2010
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    This is Toyota's way of telling the states that have not yet "gotten with the program" on stricter environmental regulations (which affects human health and childhood asthma) .. it's Toyota's way of telling them "No New Technology For You!!!". :D
     
    #12 Rybold, Nov 18, 2010
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