Hybrid Sales Don't Hold Up Under Own Weight

Perhaps you'd have oil independence already if you drove fuel efficient vehicles like the rest of the world instead of 5 litre gas guzzlers! (a car doesn't have to be a hybrid to be fuel efficient!).

But hey, it's your right to drive what the heck you want and so what if by doing so you're supporting terrorists and states that don't have your interests at heart!

Just a thought!

 

Excellent!

http://www.hybridcars.com/hybrid-clean-diesel-sales-dashboard/october-2010.html

To bring this in perspective, Toyota sells that many hybrids in one month and 14,584 is over two years. Back of the envelope, this is less than 5% of all hybrid sales although compared to the Ford and GM sales, certainly significant for those USA hybrid makers (even if the GM models are especially lame.)

Again most excellent! Sticking it to BP and Exxon at the pump!

GSA prices, exactly what is needed. We won't benefit until these vehicles show up on the GSA excess property sales where their higher salvage prices will all but eliminate depreciation costs. Meanwhile, the smart shopper will start watching the GSA sales closer.

This is really good news! Now if we could just mandate that the advocates of the hydrogen fraud were only allowed to drive them, life would be complete. They would be self-selected into immobility and we could get on with the heavy lifting. It is a shame we didn't hear more about this policy before.

Thanks! This article begins to explain the distribution of sales in the Dashboard reports.

Bob Wilson

 

Perhaps the mods can move this thread to Fred's House of Politics.

Tom

 

I don't have an opinion one way or the other where this thread winds up. It has hybrid content, something all but forgotten in "House of Politics." Perhaps "House of Pancakes" might be a good choice but it works regardless of location as far as I'm concerned.

My interest is in understanding the Dashboard numbers that showed an unexpected growth in Ford hybrids. I will be going back over the historical data and see if we can get more details about the sales distribution. This will help explain the actual market size and health.

Bob Wilson

 

Shouldn't all vehicles purchased with Stimulus Funds be American made?

Just askin....

Shouldn't the huge purchasing power of government auto purchases
be used to jump start the EV market place?

 

it's not perfect, but it makes sense to some extent.

 

Nice attitude.

Maybe that's the same attitude why the US is loved so much around the world. I like the way you include Canada in with the likes of the Narco (sic) state of Mexico and the corrupt state of Nigeria.

Thing is, I know quite a few Americans over here in the UK and they're a credit to their Country, as are the majority of members on this forum.

I suppose it's got to be balanced out by the presence of a few gobshites.

 

are you really not allowed to drive whatever you want? when i watch the UK show about the guy who buys the used cars and the mechanic fixes them and then they resell it, it seems to be a wide variety of vehicles. and you were the bastion of sports cars! my first, 40 years ago, austin healy sprite!

 

I am not sure you can find a vehicle that is all American made. The highest I have seen is about 80% US content. Or did you mean American brands, regaurdless of where it was made?

To the OP's confused 'headline', does that mean that no industry that sell anything to any government anywhere does not hold up under it's own weight? If so, why pick on cars?

 

You're presuming natural gas reserves are as huge as the feds claim. If you recall, it's the industry & the feds that keep touting how huge our reserves are ... only to find out a decade later ... invariably ... they've been overstated 10 fold.

As for feds buying 'american hybrids' ... that great. Caddy hybrid gets about 19mpg. Good luck with THAT stemming peak oil.
Or maybe you're thinking of the Malibu hybrid ... oh ... are those even hybrids? ... they DO turn off the engine at a red light (weee! whoop de do) ... oh wait ... they stopped making them. The saturn hybrid was wonderful I must admit ... oh wait, never mind, GM killed that whole line of business. Never mind.

.

 

Hi All,

Please move this to FHOP. The OP's comments are not Hybrid news, but politcal comentary....

 

Yes, CNG fuel, by all means. T. Boone Pickens needs the extra income.

 

Haha, we can drive what we like, but inefficient, large or polluting cars are extremely expensive. As an example, the fairly mediocre chevrolet cruze with 1.8l petrol engine and six speed auto box costs £200 a year in "road tax". Plus the 36mpg rating will be pretty expensive with petrol at around $7/US gallon. If you buy a buick regal (vauxhall insignia) with 2.8V6 then your annual road tax is £435 and fuel economy is 25mpg.

A prius with £0 a year road tax and 72mpg rating is a much nicer choice!

Anyway, must go now, i have subservient drone duties to perform.

 

so it's taxes that sway peoples decisions? apparently, it works, but i'm not in favor of the rich driving what they want and everyone else having to make a difficult financial decision. but, i suppose that's because we've never been restricted that way. i guess it's like anything else in life, the more money you have, the gretaer variety of choices.

 

Having looked at the follow up and seen a distinct lack of facts and data, I am changing my mind about this thread being of much use here.

When the November Dashboard report comes out, I'll have collected the historical data and we can plot the last three years of hybrid sales. If there is a noticable 'blip' in the GM and Ford numbers, it should be evident. If not, well no need to get our 'panties in a wad' about it.

Bob Wilson

 

The taxes absolutely change peoples decisions! It doesn't work on everything, for instance alcohol and cigarettes have large taxes on them but still sell well. For a neccesity like a car though, people do look for the best value for money.

I'm sure if you had to pay $7 a gallon for petrol in the states a lot of people would get over their small dick complexes and buy a Yaris instead of a Land Cruiser. Even the yaris sedan is a bit big really.