Big Brake Upgrade For Gen. III

I would like to know this as well.

 

Someone has a BBK on their Gen3? I would like to know more as well!

 

Maybe check out other cars with the same/similar chasis(interchangeable suspension parts), like the xb, Matrix (?) or maybe even Corolla (?).

In most Honda setups (it may not be similar for Toyotas, but), as long as the bolt pattern is the same, it should be able to fit. Acura TL BBK can fit Accord v6, tsx, and so on. I hope this can shed some bravery to try and research other venues.

 

Any updates on this?

 

i've emailed StopTech regarding this. they have informed me that they are under contract to not manufacture brakes for new model Toyota cars. if we wish to get some upgrades, it would be a good option to contact TRD. i have tried to find a webform/email to contact TRD without success

i've also checked TOM's and they only have sport pads as well.

 

Theoretically, could you mount up the Brembo GranTurismo BBK to a Prius? For people who upgrade, it seems like a pretty popular kit. You'd probably need 18s to do it.

 

Shawn there are many shops can custom make bbk for our cars if you really want I can ask around for you but price wont be cheap

BR

Robert

 

anybody? I want some bigger brakes....

 

wouldn't a corolla or scion TC brake kit work? matrix owners have successfully used TC brake kits....

I don't believe there is any "hybrid technology" at the caliper/pad/disc/ level. assuming you guys are upsized for wheel clearance of the kit, i don't see why it wouldn't work.

only issue that comes to mind is the car's computer may be programmed to react to the OEM brake kit, but even there, I can't imagine this would even be a problem, considering that we could all replicate the effects of a BBK with our OEM brakes by doing something like speeding towards a hill and rapidly braking as we hit the incline....i don't think the car computer cares what slope you're on, it still figures out how to brake properly.

 

^^ Using a BBK from a Scion tC or Corolla could work. Only thing would be the bias that the car calculates the amount of physical braking vs regen braking with the BBK installed. Not sure how that would effect the braking overall though. We would have to know the algorithm used to determine how much braking force is used and if it would have to altered with more pistons and larger rotors.

 

i agree with the notion, but if we take it a bit further, we can see that it's possible to create a variety of braking situations with a stock gen 3, with ABS (recall aside) reacting normally in each of them.

ABS is reacting to what the wheels are doing, regardless of why. if the wheels lock, or experience rapid deceleration, ABS will react accordingly.

seems to me a BBK is just something that induces a state change in wheel rotation, and from there ABS will react to whatever it "sees".

as for pistons and rotors, we could use the matrix/tc braking needs and therefore aftermarket matrix/tc BBKs as hypothetical benchmarks.

the curb weight of a 2010 prius is 3060lbs, with a 2010 TC at 3600lbs and a Matrix at 2865lbs.
so, there is definitely "more car to stop" in the case of the Prius, but what this ultimately means for Prius BBK (considering its the lowest HP of the bunch) is uncertain to me.

 

From a practical position, why would anybody (like a real company, not an individual) want to undertake the project of integrating a new brake system on the Prius? If there were even one minor accident, people would come crawling out of the woodwork filing lawsuits....

Keith

 

while i dont completely disagree (and for the sake of conversation), the same question can be asked of anyone upgrading their brakes. countless thousands have done so, at their own risk of course, and there doesn't seem to be many instances of BBK mishaps. most of these modern cars that receive brake upgrades have very complicated computer controlled braking systems, yet it doesn't seem to have any detrimental effect.

arguing why a prius owner might want a BBK is another matter entirely, one who's only real answer is "because people to do what they please"

 

I feel like it needs more power, before bigger brakes.

 

There's quite a bit of brake fade when running under autox and pushing it down the canyons. You don't necessarily need more power to warrant bigger brakes. You won't actually stop faster but it will help you a lot with brake fade and such.