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Why would anyone Own a Prius

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by Gwest, Feb 8, 2011.

  1. SW03ES

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    Plenty of zippy handling FWD cars out there. Its not going to be a BMW 3 series no, but plenty of handling prowess to be fun.
     
  2. ItsNotAboutTheMoney

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    Coach's case was a bit unusual. But then, he's a coach.

    Generalizations exist for a reason. The general rule is that salesmen show the safety and practical stuff and to women and emphasize the power, mechanics and tech to men. I was shown the engine of an Insight and nodded ignorantly.

    PS Thanks for changing the pic. Those Highlander commercials piss me off about as much as the Sienna commercials did.
     
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    While there is only so much, there is an awful lot in that so much. An SRT4 for example could slap down almost anything on the road in a tight track.
    I was ok with the Sienna ones. At first I found them offensively stupid but in time got to like them, but then i loved that guy in those Sonic commercials, too. I hate the Highlander commercials. I've never come across such a patronizing marketing campaign as that one. It all but screams that if you're a parent you have no self-esteem and we're going to make you feel terrible about it unless you buy a highlander, lest you be made fun of by a curly haired eight year old.
     
  4. usbseawolf2000

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    It does have double wishbone suspension in the rear. They did lowered the seating position to address the center of gravity.

    The body rigidity was increased also and they added lateral dampers to absorb extra vibrations resulting from it. The handling should be better than Prius Five for sure.
     
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    There ya go. Winner.

    It will handle a little better than a Prius ...:cool:...
     
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    LOL

    Define "almost anything" and "slap down" because an SRT4 has nowhere near the handling and speed of countless sports cars.
     
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    It should handle better than Volt as well. Volt is much heavier and with torsion beams in rear suspension.

    For the money, CT200h is a better buy than the Volt.
     
  8. Thai

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    For the record, the best handling FWD car is the Cobalt SS turbo, according to NURBURGRING track times. Yes, the freaking Cobalt SS is an animal, in FWD world. And yes, most good RWD sports car with any heritage will beat the Cobalt SS around "The Ring."

    Yeah, people still haven't gotten the news yet...the Prius is NOT the CT's main rival, according to Lexus. Yes, the Prius is the CT's rival among hybrid consumers...and my guess is that Prius will win among these consumers.

    But the CT200h was not made to appeal to hybrid consumers, as much as young professionals wanting a sports car. In this regard (and Lexus said so), the CT's main rivals are the German TDIs, the Acura TSX Sportwagon, VW GTI, etc.. So, while a CT200h can beat a Smart car and a 5-year old Kia Rio, it will see the taillights among ALL its competitors...along with the Focus, Cruze, Kias, Hyundais, my Sienna minivan...well, you get the picture...10 seconds is damn slow for any sports car within that past decade, much less today!

    You're missing the point for CT200h's existence...sure, the CT200h will win a few converts from Prius and Volt, but that won't be nearly enough to support its sales. CT200h main consumers are the young professionals looking for a sports car...and this is where it fails vs. the competition.
     
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    This may be my only chance to ever be slim. (Slim in your terminology only requires lots of driving)

    I drive 30,000 miles a year with the back end jamb packed with networking gear. I save over $1000 a year in gas alone over a Martix, which I don't fit in anyways. I would save even more over a RAV4, to hold all my gear. (I previously used a 24 MPG Subaru Forester to hold it all. My Prius saves over $1700 in gas alone each year) I suspect I am the target for the Prius v, but it was ready two years late.

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    OK. Almost anything in its price range + $10k. Prelude SH was also very competitive near its price point.
    I bet they cost a ton more, too :) But that is a larger track favoring more horsepower.
     
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    I fit that demographic and I am digging for CT200h. My car has to be a FULL hybrid and CT200h appears be the best handling FULL hybrid, period. I have not driven it. Fusion hybrid may come close but I am not interested in sedan with trunk. I also want to move upscale so Ford brand would not give enough prestige.

    I also don't want to use premium gas and high maintenance German engineering. CT200h maintenance should be the same as Prius and it should be as reliable.

    In my book, CT200h is a great handling car with very low maintenance and highly reliable (proven with Prius track record). It also will have very low operating cost due to 42 MPG on regular gasoline.
     
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    It is true that most RWD cars are more expensive, but FWD cars are inherently limited as a sports car. Why do you think Acura has to rely on it's SH-AWD system (added to Accord platform) to compete against its German (and Lexus IS) rivals? Almost all FWD platform sports car above $30K have AWD as an option. And here we are talking about a premium small sports car above $30k with FWD and 134 up engine good for only 10 seconds??!!

    The "Ring" is THE place where manufacturers tune their sports car suspension and drivetrain. A good sports car with good handling will beat a straight line performer any day of the week!
     
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    Again, there will be few like you...but you are NOT what Lexus is going after! And people like you will not be enough to support the sales of the CT.
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    What the heck is "NuLuxe" seating Material???!!!!

    Is that anything like pleather???
     
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    Vinyl.
     
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    How do you know? Do you have any study done to support that?
     
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    Uhhh...Lexus said so....
     
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    NuLuxe is a syn­thetic leather, with a smooth, soft, leath­ery sur­face. It appears to be made from vinyl. Pleather is made from plastic to look like leather.

    NuLuxe seats:
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    Source please. Then why is Lexus bringing it to the US?
     
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    Audi A3 TDI and the likes. No where in Lexus literature does it state that the primary competitor is the Prius. I would also add in there Acura TSX SportWagon, VW GTi, etc..