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Another MPG Boosting Technique or Not?

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Fuel Economy' started by sipnfuel, Feb 18, 2011.

  1. sipnfuel

    sipnfuel New Member

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    Today, while I was driving on the freeway, I noticed something as I was driving.

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    So if I stay steady at about 80% of the bar, between the red lines, I get a 45 mpg reading at about 75 mph. Note I am not pulsing or gliding here. I am only maintaining steady speed.

    If I slide the bar down to about 60%, so that I am between the white midline and the left red line, the instantaneous MPGs actually go up to 80 mpg. Note I'm going about 70 mph at this point.

    Seems I can use the throttle to move the bar anywhere from 60% to about 85% without changing my speed that much. But the MPGs vary a lot. From about 80 mpg at 60% to 40 mpg at 99%.

    So I keep modulating between 60% to 80~90% and my avg MPGs seem to be going up, and battery is not going down much. Can I call this slow-pulse / fast-pulse? Well you don't slow down much in the slow-pulse and the fast-pulse is easy because you never slowed down that much in the first place.

    Perhaps I am draining the battery a bit and then charging it up just as quickly, and this actually is overall more fuel efficient? Like a mini-drain and mini-charge. Could this be majorly stressful for the battery? I really don't know if this is even the case.

    It's hard for me to switch to the other view to check the arrows and simultaneously be sure that I have the bar at 60%. I don't know what mode the HSD is doing (Battery-Draining, Battery-Charging, Series-Parallel, etc.).
     
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    Have you heard of super highway mode (SHM)? That's what you found! It's a great way to do better mpg at higher speeds.
     
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    Actually I haven't. It's not in that Max MPG video. That video says to never stay above the midline.

    Edit ... sorry I take that back. I'm gonna watch that video again, report back soon
     
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    Ok you know I've watched that video again and even though it mentions Super Highway Mode in the beginning, it never mentions it again. It doesn't say what it is, or explain how to do it.

    It does say not to keep the bar above the midline. So I've been avoiding that area just above the midline. This is probably why didn't notice this before.

    What I described is switching back and forth between these positions and it boosts MPGs. Unlike P&G, it doesn't piss off the guy behind you that much. Is this Super Highway Mode?

    But anyways, I'm not sure what Super Highway mode is, I'm researching it, and I don't know if what I described above is Super Highway mode. But if anyone cares to let me know, I'd appreciate it.
     
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    Super highway mode is when you get anywhere from about 60 or 70 to 99.9 on the display as instant mpg. You can't accelerate with SHM unless you're on a downhill, and on slight uphills I can sometimes *almost* keep speed, but it drains gradually. As for the technical side of what's happening, someone else would have to ring in.

    Someone in this other thread seems to find it without extra instrumentation by keeping the bar just around the right side of the ECO mark, like you found yourself.

    http://priuschat.com/forums/gen-iii...way-mode-shm-hybrid-system-indicator-hsi.html

    More detail from a master hypermiler...Note the position of his bar near the right side of the ECO mark again while holding SHM, and getting 78.5 mpg instantaneous from the reading on his Scanguage:

    2010 Prius-III P&G, SHM and WS FE techniques rehashed, defined and refined - CleanMPG Forums

    So yes, people do accelerate to speed then try to use SHM to more or less maintain speed with minimal gas consumption! Hope that helps.