I really don't get it???

The price is not set for the plug-in Prius. It may be tough to justify the plug-in on cost alone. The average MPGs could vary much more than a regular Prius, depending on how the car is driven.

Best thing to do would be to look at results of case studies as the plug-in demos have been loaned out to many individuals and testing institutions.

 

I don't get it either. Show me a plug-in that cruises 500 miles and I'll get!

 

Alternatively, you get a ride just ripe for mods! I'm thinking another nice battery pack for folks that would maybe want just an extra 5 miles ... turning on if their typical commute is just a few extra miles.
Oh . . . and regarding the 13 miles? Is that what Toyota as saying? Maybe my odometer was off ... because I was knockin' out 17 miles on a couple of occasions.

 

You should watch this video. This expresses why Prius drivers love their cars so much.

 

Also, don't forget that diesel cost's more.

But if you're interested, here are some videos regarding the new Prius. Hope you enjoy them.

Prius Life Cycle

New Prius Presentation

Prius HSD (Hybrid Synergy Drive)

 

I suppose it's true that with the mileage you get with a Prius, the 13 electric miles save about $1.25 in gas, or about $450/year if you charge & drive once per day. (More if gas prices rise). That doesn't account for the price of electricity.

The way I see it is differently: Oil companies are evil. They pollute because it's profitable. They start wars for oil. They spent a fortune to politicize Global Warming and to convince people that it is a hoax.

Gas savings: $450/year
Pleasure of keeping money away from oil companies: Priceless.

 

And don't forget, we taxpayers subsidize the Oil Companies' tax credits. Who then have the gall to move their headquarters to foreign countries so they don't have to pay tax to the US. Just the country they happen to be based in.

 

I'm with you. I took one look at the plug-in Prius and labeled it a no-go for me. I want at least 40 miles on EV but the target price needs to be much closer to $20K. None of the EV cars are there yet.

The Volt is way too expensive. Great idea though. Plug-in Prius is the same. Perhaps cheaper but I'm interested in running on EV all the time and 13 miles just won't get me there. I'm retired so no commute, but most of the trips from my house to shopping happen to be about 14 miles round trip and a small side trip will easily turn that into 20. I want either full electric or at least something that will go 40+ per charge. No way I'm paying over $25K with rebates to make the shift from our 2008 Prius any time soon.

The Leaf is dead ugly and too expensive. The Focus electric looks interesting but the projected price is again too high.

Perhaps over time prices will drop.

 

Global warming is a hoax.. my friend .... do your homework.

After 100000 miles and 4.05$ a galon of GAS a car that has:
- 20 mpg will cost you 20250.00$ for Gas
- 30 mpg will cost you 13500.00$ for Gas
- 45 mpg will cost you 9000.00$ for Gas
- 50 mpg will cost you 8100.00$ for Gas
- 70 mpg will cost you 5781.71$ for Gas
- 75 mpg will cost you 5399.99$ for Gas

After 100000 miles and 5.05$ a galon of GAS a car that has:
- 20 mpg will cost you 25250.00$ for Gas
- 30 mpg will cost you 16833.33$ for Gas
- 45 mpg will cost you 11222.22$ for Gas
- 50 mpg will cost you 10100.00$ for Gas
- 70 mpg will cost you 7214.28$ for Gas
- 75 mpg will cost you 6733.33$ for Gas



So if you buy a new car coming from a car that uses even 30MPG (we are not even talking less than that) makes a lot of sense to buy the new plugin.

From what I read on the new prius you get at least 75 MPG on the
hybrid mode without going on electric mode at all.
So even if you go from regular Prius you still make at least 3000.00$
on Gas savings after 100000 miles.
You can do your own calculations here GAS Calculators

 

When petrol reaches $9/gal (as it is here) you'll be clamoring for every electric mile you can manage. 13 miles is perfect for me, since my commute is 13 miles each way...

 

I have noticed that we in the US do not have the balls to even calculate past 5 bucks, like that is the magic end of the world number...well its been that way overseas for over a decade now.

My first deployment I remember gas in France was 5.7 francs per liter, exchange was roughly 5 francs to the dollar so they were paying $3.87 or so per gallon in 1998.

They also were already driving cars the size of my Fiesta or smaller...smart huh?

We are paying that right now....kinda makes you not wanna bitch about it.

 

The truth is that we should not calculate the gas not even 4$ and the gas in Europe is expensive because of their governments.

In Europe at least 65% from the price of gas is taxes because they need money to fund their socialist programs.
Their economies are killed by European Union and they have to get the money from somewhere.

Same thing will happen here because our country is killed by globalists and corupted politicians and presidents.

 

Can you cite a source for this? I doubt the 2012 plug in Prius can get 50% better mileage than the current 2011 Prius' 50MPG. If you include electric usage in the right percentage the 75MPG is quite doable. In fact If you use the right percentage electric you can make the "MPG" as high as you want.

 

Watch this videos

2012 Toyota Prius Plug-in Hybrid First Impressions

the link is on the first page of priuschat.com

And think what hyper milers (people that get 70 MPG with regular prius) will do with that car.

 

OK watched the video twice and I still don't think Danny is saying he got 75MPG without the plug in electric being used. I do agree that hypermiling could achieve that number, but for regular driving where the 2010 is spec'd at 50 MPG the 2012 won't be spec'd at 75 MPG without the plug in battery being used. Maybe I misinterpreted what you were saying in the first post?

 

+1

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Yes, the tax is high, because fighting wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (and soon of course Pakistan and Iran) is pretty expensive.

 

I'd like to see the government drop both the EV incentives and all of the subsidies for oil. The price for gas will skyrocket and hybrids and EVs won't need any sales help. Let the market loose if thats your non-socialist thing.

 

Right now my wife is driving the prius And I get to drive after she comes home from work, and I'm waiting for her to arrive, then I go and wherever I need to go and with 80% freeway driving we are getting right now 56-58 MPG.
I would love to have the new plugin. I'm thinking ways to get it maybe trade in....

 

My main reason for switching to a plug in is regenerative braking for longer periods of time. I went to Tennessee and went down on a steep hill, just one, for maybe 200 feet and my battery was full, so if you travel in the mountains this could help you a lot.