The Osama Death Photos NOT to be released, what say you???

Could we say in this instance, photochopped?

 

I really disagree. There's so much to say;

Personally, I do not believe Osama was killed on Sunday and labeling my belief a conspiracy theory is insulting to me and other Americans - what I'm partaking in is merely institutional analysis. As an American, it's our obligation to question authority. I detest those who deflect an intellectual conversation and attack those as being nut-cases when questioning authority. In my view, those are the unpatriotic people. With that said, whether your a Democrat or Republican, there are many red flags that you have to see.

- Why after 10 years of searching for Bin Laden, did we bury his body at sea in less than 24 hours? We could've taken 1,001 autopsies on the guy and learned all about his life. Was he mental from year x to y? What were his disorders? Etc etc etc. An autopsy report would dilineate exactly how he died, when. They do it to everybody, why not Public Enemy #1?
- Why won't the government release the pictures? Was his body not fresh? Has he been cryogenically frozen for all this time? Again autopsies would show this, so where is the report and/or pictures?
- How would he get away with living in a mansion in plain sight for 6 years in Pakistan? Pakistan is our strategic ally, has a strong military, and would've help us locate him a long time ago.

It is a complete insult of the American government to not at least release the pictures or autopsy report. A photo of the body may not convince the strongest of doubters, but it's a worthy attempt by the government to look credible. By refusing to release photos, the government is laughing in our faces for believing them blindly. This is where I have a problem - the media and you lambasts me for being unpatriotic, but I say it's unpatriotic not to ask these questions.

I've kept my mind open and spoken to several of my coworkers and friends the past couple days on the issue - Democrat and Republican - and they all agree that something fishy is going on. It's not a conspiracy theory, it's instituational analysis.

 

I have hard time believing they wouldnt want to fully interrogate OBL before killing him.
Makes me wonder if they arent secretly torturing him at this moment.
Would the CIA lie?

 

Unless you've got an old-fashioned chemical negative in your hands, a "photo" these days is proof of nothing irrespective of the medium it appears in, and an electronic medium least of all. Showing post-mortem photos of bin-Laden would only scratch the itch of prurient morbid curiosity and not provide the slightest evidence he'd been killed or when.

 

they should only show the part where his body is thrown off the ship like a piece of trash he was.



then his followers will then see what the "glory" of being a martyr is all about.

 

You may question authority, but by definition you can never accept an answer ... from authority....

In any event, proceeding on "institutional analysis..." (yikes) since Bush Jr took so much crap for never catching Bin Laden, why would Obama suddenly trot him out after 10 years? Bush would have been a hero, not an ineffectual gas bag, as some asserted.

Here is the discussion: We have Osama's corpse in a vault Mr. President. Well, let's wait till after I lose the House in this election cycle, and THEN trot him out. Strategery.

(tightening foil hat...)

 

I am sure there was a formal burial at sea ceremony with a Muslim chaplain officiating. And it was filmed.

 

take that part out.


just the part where he's flung off the back. then hopefully being eaten by sharks

 

It looks like the handling of the situation has been to minimize the incentive for suicide types to kill someone out of rage. (Remember the Afghanistan mob killing a few weeks ago?)

It makes sense not to release the photos for quite some time. It also makes good sense to put the body out of reach while respecting the religious traditions to the best extent feasible. At some point the Freedom of Information Act will get the photos, but not today. These decisions may have saved some innocent(s) lives. Good choice.

 

"Put the body out of reach," that's fine. But rather than take him back to the CIA and perform a dozen autopsies, they dump the body in the ocean? Not a good choice.

 

Yes....YES, they would.

*I am now on the CIA list of people to watch out for* lol

 

Couldn't we have just slowly beheaded him with a rusty and blunt pocket knife and then post the video on the net for proof?

Or maybe we could take some suggestions from Pulp Fiction; quote "Marsellus: What now? Let me tell you what now. I'm gonna call a couple of hard, pipe-hitting niggas to go to work on the homes here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch. [to Zed] You hear me talking, hillbilly boy? I ain't through with you by a damn sight. I'm gonna get medieval on your nice person"

And then we could behead him? I don't care if you say it's not civilized or I'd lose the moral high ground. The guy was an evil **** and should have got a good slow death.

 

Executive pop quiz:

1) What problem would releasing the photos solve?

2) What problem(s) would it create?

 

An autopsy isn't necessary, that's why. They do it to "everybody" because the justice system requires it. No justice system involved here, and the cause of death is rather obvious. He was buried quickly for religious reasons. While it might have satisfied some curiosity, it really isn't necessary to know about all his disorders (and I don't think as much info could be gleaned as you seem to believe), and really would just fuel the personality cult.

The government believes that the negatives of release outweigh the benefits. The only real benefit seems to be to satisfy curiosity. The negatives are increased risk to US citizens and military personnel overseas. If you're the President, which one would you come down on the side of?

Unrelated to the release of the pictures.

Just to get it straight then, you believe the government doesn't look credible now? All the media tours of the compound, the bloodstained carpet, the bin Laden family's response, al Qaeda's response, Pakistan's response, that's not credible?

Obviously the government hasn't been credible in the past, so I agree that some kind of suspicion is justified. But it really doesn't seem like there is anything 'fishy' going on. There was an obvious religious reason for the quick burial, unlike, say, JFK. Details are always going to be inconsistent, that's to be expected after any kind of event like this.

And obviously, faking someone's death is a huge risk if you haven't actually killed him..

 

Keep in mind there will always be a group that will never be convinced of OBL's death, regardless of how much evidence is provided. You can tell them the sky is blue, but they'll still be in denial. (I think Trump is counting on these people...)

 

I just don't understand why we've been after this guy for so long and all of a sudden find him, shoot him, and then throw him in the ocean...

I would've kicked him in the happy sacks a few times.

 

Real life is not a made for TV B movie. Unfortunately.

 

But they didn't chuck Sadam in the sea. They didn't throw Hitlers henchmen in the sea either.

I'm with MelissaAnne on this one. They suddenly found him, shot him and chucked him in the sea. Hmmm, yeah right. Just doesn't smell right.

 

Saddam was captured alive. Bin Laden was not (whether that was possible is another debate).

Hitler's henchmen weren't Muslim or Jewish (both religions require bodies to be buried within 24 hours).

 

Obama has learned from the birther experience. Don't give out the info. Let conspiracy theories foment. Delegitimize the republican party by letting birther wing rave, rant and drool about OBL not really having been killed. Let this come to a head which will be around election time. THEN after "too much pressure", release the photos, get the voting bump and get re-elected.