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Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by Comrad_Durandal, Apr 25, 2011.

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    Anyone out there who enjoys N-Scale model railroading? I am looking to resurrect my 4' x 8' layout table (the layout currently on it has been flattened - pictures if people want later) and I guess I am surprised at the number of options out there since 2007 when I was forced out due to finances.
     
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    I'll be back later tonight with pics from my neighbor's lay out, it quite nice. :thumb:
     
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    i bought a large scale german set when my kids were young. not sure of the scale now. i put it away when they grew out of it. someday they will discover it when they have kids.
     
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    I've yet to build my own master layout, but I've been involved with large club layouts - mostly HO - for many years, and I continue to operate friend's layouts regularly. I have several boxes of N scale equipment awaiting space in the basement. And time.

    It depends what prototype you model, but quality N scale is better than it's ever been. Steam is still scarce - there just aren't as many people around who are interested. The hobby in general isn't as popular as it once was, nor is it any cheaper.

    Cut that 4x8 into pieces and make a long, skinny shelf - your railway will look far more realistic. :)
     
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    I don't model steam, so that doesn't worry me much (though I do have a large collection of really old (20+ year old) Bachmann N-scale equipment in the box that belonged to my father (nearly all of it is steam-era). He never used it, as he was more of an HO scale kind of guy - so that would be a project to fix it up to runnable condition.

    The 4x8 area is kind of set in stone, as that's the table I built for it. Without a chain-saw, it's not coming apart. I do have a new layout in mind that makes use of it for the most part - the big thing is I want to be able to run the train without needing to change directions or switches all the time - hence I figured on a layout that had one or more continuous circuit(s).

    Right now, I have one KATO Amtrak set, one F7 freight with the dorky couplers on it (sorry, Rapido couplers), and a half-set of F59PHI Metro Transit Northstar commuter train (power unit and end car, no rolling stock)
     
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    A combination of switching and continuous operation is probably the most satisfying. A 'dogbone' style layout with a loop at each end allows for both, while still making it look like trains are going back and forth. 'Real' railroads don't run their trains around in circles just for fun. :)

    Z scale Kadee couplers will look more realistic than N scale, and far better than the 'dorky' horn-hook lumps of plastic. You can still be active in the hobby without a layout - it sounds like coupler conversions and putting some steam on display, awaiting restoration, will keep you busy for awhile.
     
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    HO for me.

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    Have a bunch of old American Flyer O-scale in the parents attic, and my grandfather did a ton of HO, but I don't recall ever working with N. Most of my model railroad experience is from childhood, and I remember not liking smaller scales since it was too easy to break stuff.
     
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    I can't really say I got into HO much, it seemed overly large and the detail...was lacking in the models I kept seeing over and over again. N-scale seemed so much more precise, and I could model more in the space I had at the time. Of course, Z scale is looking more and more appealing, but I don't want to have to scratch build everything and use steam engine stock - since there is precious few modern locomotives in Z scale, a handful of rolling stock, and like four manufacturer's of items for the entire industry.

    I did find a site that had a few good layouts, including some with some impressive switching areas - but I do want to model a small town on the layout as well. The big thing I want to shoot for it having details on all sides of this 'island' setup, something for everyone to notice besides the train running.

    Another thing I am thinking of getting into is DCC (and sound). The question I have is: If the locomotive is equipped with sound, can it be shut off so if you are running more than one or two engines, your area isn't a maelstrom of clashing sounds?
     
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    Certain sounds like chuff and bells can be turned on and off, so I don't see why all of the sound couldn't be switched also. You'll have to check the brand you're planning to use - they have different features. The decoder chips come in different sizes, too. Many newer diesels come with space built in, but N scale steam can be tricky to fit. You can reduce the size of the weight, but then it may not run as well. Have you got a local hobby shop?
     
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    I am lucky in that I have two pretty good quality hobby shops within thirty minutes of my place, and another within an hour. I seem to remember reading that most of the N scale equipment produced after about 2005 is DCC-ready, and some might even have the board inside already installed - it just needs to be programmed. I know when I had to leave the hobby in 2007, DCC systems were horribly expensive... now they seem pretty reasonable.
     
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    Having a hobby shop or two nearby is great. Prices might be cheaper by mail order, but good advice is hard to come by that way.

    While you're still shopping, something fun to look at is a system produced by Signal Research. It's a fascinating system that integrates block control with signals, and uses no decoders. I hunch it would be cost competitive for a larger layout with many locomotives, but it's overkill for a 4x8 with two locomotives. Actually, DCC probably is, too - the good old Cab A and Cab B might work nicely, and be far cheaper.
     
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    I was thinking on the subject, and I think I want to build a train watching layout, with a little bit of area to play with the trains if wanted. I found a site that centers on small layouts, which I could expand to put more scenery in.
     
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    Have you looked at this site? Lots of interesting ideas for small layouts to be found there.
     
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    Add another N scaler here. Was very active in the hobby and the scale back in the 80's, but had to pack it all up when my daughters came along - they took over the layout room :(

    The club that I was involved in developed a modular system which was a little different from the N-Trak system. Our modules were generally just different yards with a single track running through. We linked the modules with connecting sections that were just main line lengths, allowing us to string a reasonable set of towns together. We needed modules as we started off using rented halls to meet in - meaning that we had to take everything away with us. Eventually we were able to save up to take a full time lease on some permanent property.

    The club is still active here in Sydney - but they have now converted to a large permanent layout (see www.sydneynscale.org.au).

    I dropped out of the club when I started travelling for my company - with all the travel, my weekends at home were for the family, not for me to head off to a day at the club, but still keep occassional contact with some of the group.

    I found that finding a local club was the best thing for my modelling - it is amazing how much you can learn from others, and pass on some of the things that you learn. Plus, if you have problems with any aspect of the hobby, you can always turn to one of the other members for help.

    With retirement only a few months away, I intend to get back into the hobby - will have to convert all the stuff I have boxed up to operate with DCC. The wife has promised that I can have half the garage for a layout area, but this may require a lot more effort to make it reasonably dust free than I am willing to do, so may just setup a small end to end layout in the spare bedroom, and re-join the club so I can get out and run stuff.

    If you only have a 4x8 area available, my suggestion is to build it as a 3x8 sceniced section, with the remaining foot hidden by a back scene - and put a set of tracks in that area to hold trains that come onto the stage (the front scene, which can be as detailed as you wish) and then pass onto the rest of the world (back to the storage yard).
     
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    Sorry this took so long and for the poor video quality, enjoy. This is in a 16'X20' building out back with AC. Conservatively, he says he has $25,000 in cars alone. Inside the mountain is another switch yard with a hundred+ more cars. !!! :eek: !!!



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    Can't believe I missed this thread...

    I have a double deck shelf layout in a 13'x12' room with HO on top and N on bottom. Started in 06 and has been on hold pretty much since I bought the Prius in 09 (seems I can only handle one hobby at a time :) ). Pretty much just got the track laid and have done little in scenery. My era is modern and only model Alaska Railroad equipment and scenes. All DCC.
     
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    Wow... now...that's way way more than I ever intend to ever do... unless I had a whole house full of rug-rats that wanted trains... I figure my simply 4x8 space is probably pretty good for just me - get bored with it - sell it or take a Sawzall to it and start with a different theme... I really DO wish there was more modern scenery items out there though.
     
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    On the subject of N-Scale model railroading, anyone have thoughts of buying a Kato vs. a Fox Valley Model train. They both seem to be excellent equipment, and I have two Kato trains (just love their smooth movement and response) but heard Fox Valley went for the gold with the details. Any thoughts?
     
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    Most of my n locos are Kato (about 12 now). I also have a few Atlas. Hands down the Katos are the best. Not one issue with them and they are very smooth. Their HO models are just as good btw.

    For some reason I have it in my head the Fox Valley use Kato as a base. I am researching that now.