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RIP 05 Prius?

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by Eco143, May 23, 2011.

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What should i do?

Poll closed Jun 6, 2011.

  1. Sue the dealership

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  2. Speak with toyota (manager doesnt respond)

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  3. Tow it off a cliff

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  4. New storage unit

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  1. Eco143

    Eco143 New Member

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    I bought this car used in october,its an 05 and i can't even open or lock the vehicle. It just wont work. For 2 months all the lights flickered like a xmas tree and was told by dealership that all lights would turn on in accessory mode,the car wasn't even running and they did the water pump recall? I dont know if they did but still nothing. Then poof! Car ran and was told it was a okay the battery was fine. It wasnt checked. So i haven't a clue on what to do at this point? The surrounding dealerships say its under warranty and its not under warranty! 10 yr/100k right? I dont know what to say or do at this point! Help!
     
    #1 Eco143, May 23, 2011
  2. 2k1Toaster

    2k1Toaster Brand New Prius Batteries

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    Your 12v is dead. Replace it for $200 and be happy.

    Stop overreacting.
     
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  3. Eco143

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    Thanks i was told $3,000 plus $140/hr labor. I wanted to have a heart attack.
     
    #3 Eco143, May 23, 2011
  4. 2k1Toaster

    2k1Toaster Brand New Prius Batteries

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    You have 2 batteries:

    1) HV 240v "traction" battery
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    2) Low voltage 12v "auxiliary" battery.

    #1 is $400 to $3000 to replace depending on how smartly you shop.
    #2 is $180 from the dealership

    A bad #2 will throw codes and make everything weird which makes a misdiagnosis of #1.
     
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  5. qbee42

    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    That's for the traction battery. The 12V battery is just a normal 12V battery like you find in all cars, although the form factor is a bit smaller for the Prius.

    Tom
     
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  6. Eco143

    Eco143 New Member

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    Okay great! Now can you replace the 12v battery yourself? And what kind of 12v do you get?
    Also is it under warranty? (lifetime battery?)
     
    #6 Eco143, May 23, 2011
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    seilerts Battery Curmudgeon

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    Warranty is long passed on the 12V battery, unless you bought a certified pre-owned from a dealer and had it listed in some kind of warranty. You can buy one from the dealer and install yourself, or try the Optima kit from elearnaid.com.
     
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  8. qbee42

    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    You can buy an OEM battery from the dealer, or order an Optima yellow top. There are several threads that detail how to do it.

    Tom
     
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    Eco143 New Member

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    Okay would it be still good on the other battery?
     
    #9 Eco143, May 23, 2011
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    2k1Toaster Brand New Prius Batteries

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    The Toyota warranty on the HV battery is completely independent.
     
    #10 2k1Toaster, May 23, 2011
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    ahmeow Prius Lover

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    As other said, no panic. Just change a new 12V aux. battery and you will be OK to start enjoying the wonderful feeling of driving a Prius.:)
     
    #11 ahmeow, May 23, 2011
  12. Eco143

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    So Wth is the 10yr/100k liftetime battery mean?
     
    #12 Eco143, May 24, 2011
  13. 2k1Toaster

    2k1Toaster Brand New Prius Batteries

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    That's what I meant by independent.

    The 12v battery is warranted for something like 3 year or 36000miles. And usually most warranties exclude such things as aux batteries or consumables.

    The HV battery is 10yr/100,000 miles, whichever comes first. If the car was originally purchased and registered in a CARB state, then it is 150k miles.
     
    #13 2k1Toaster, May 24, 2011
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    Okay gottcha thx
     
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    There is no 10yr/100k HV battery warranty anywhere. Try 8yr/100k in non-CARB states, 10yr/150k in CARB states.

    I could list the ten CARB states only for my 2010 model. It was probably fewer when the 2005 was built. Go back even further (2003?), and none were warranted past 8yr/100k.

    If OP did not get the warranty booklet with the used car, he should contact a Toyota dealer to get the full details.
     
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  16. Eco143

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    No response from toyota unless u like automated roulette.
    But heres a list of carbs:

    New Jersey
    Connecticut
    Oregon
    Washington
    Rhode Island
    New York
    Maine
    Massachusetts
    Pennsylvania
    New Mexico
    Florida
    Colorado
    Arizona
    Utah
     
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  17. fuzzy1

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    The CARB list is a moving target, and when states join the list, the longer traction battery warranty is not retroactive to past models.

    Your list must be for the 2011 model. My 2010 Warranty & Maintenance booklet list is a bit shorter: ten full-CARB states (CA, CT, ME, MA, NJ, NM, NY, OR, RI, VT) and two partial-CARB states (WA, PA). The latter, which includes me, get some additional benefits but not the longer battery warranty.

    AZ, CO, FL, and UT must be newcomers for 2011.

    If your 2005 has more than 100k miles, you will need to compare its sales and registration history to the 2005 CARB list in order to determine its traction battery warranty.
     
    #17 fuzzy1, May 24, 2011
  18. romad

    romad 2004 Prīus Base Former Owner (Sold 13 May 22)

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    Depends on Massachusetts law. Out here in the CPR, the warranty on the hybrid system which includes the battery is 10 yrs/100,000 miles, IIRC.
     
    #18 romad, May 24, 2011
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    i think we're 8/100k.
     
    #19 bisco, May 24, 2011
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    Hybrid battery warranty for CARB states (for those not in CA, consult your the warranty booklet for the list of eligible states at the time the car was produced) is 10 years/150K miles.

    In CARB states, the emissions performance and defect warranty is 15 years/150K miles, which ends up also covering some hybrid system components.
     
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