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Gas tank question

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Technical Discussion' started by Tw3nty, Aug 9, 2011.

  1. Tw3nty

    Tw3nty Junior Member

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    i have 2 2004 Prius. Just bought them. Filled the first one up from one bar and paid 33$ at 3.34?a gallon. Filled the second one up at one blinking bar and paid 21$ at 3.49 a gallon. How could that be. Why is the one taking so little fuel? Any advice? Could the tank be that small?
     
  2. edthefox5

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    Most asked question on Priuschat. Hundreds and hundreds of posts about it.

    The gas tank uses a rubber flexible bladder like they use in Nascar which collapses around the fuel making the fuel unable to produce fumes which lowers emisions. Problem is when you get close to empty the bladder is almost completely collapsed. So when you pull up to the pump and jump out and jam the gas nozzle in the fill hole the bladder does not release quickly and easily and the pump senses back pressure and shuts off. The gas pump reacts very quickly to any back pressure and shuts off prematurely.
    A really tough issue up north during the winter when the bladder becomes
    even less flexible due to being cold & stiff. real problem.

    Alot of people continue to click the pump on forcing gas into the tank because they know the tank can hold more than the clicking off pump is telling them. They are quickly rewarded with a bath of gasoline as the unfolding bladder pushes out air and forces all the gas back up the pipe and onto your shoes..

    The fix is very simple and foolproof. Vent the tank a minute or 2 before fueling. Pull up to the gas station and open the gas cap. Venting the tank.
    Go inside for few minutes and buy a drink. When you come out pump gas as slow as you can.
    If you can let it vent for more than 2 minutes you can pump fast but I have found over the last 3 years
    slow pump is the best.
    But here's the very important part. Hang up the pump on the very first click.
    One one bar you will be able to get about 8+ gallons in to the first click.
    Hang it up.
    Its just one of the minor things you have to put up with to drive a ZERO EMISSIONS car.

    Try what I recommend over 3 or 4 tankfuls and you'll have no issues ever again and you'll get a good feel for whats up with the bladder.
    Its really no issue at all when you understand it.

    Good Luck!!
     
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  3. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
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    The Gen 2 Prius (2004-2009) had a flexible rubber bladder inside the standard metal fuel tank. The bladder is susceptible to temperature changes among other factors (you'll see your tank size shrink in the winter)., The tank is 45 litres (12.1 gal) but on a Gen 2, you'll be hard pressed to pump in more than 9.5 gal.

    I wouldn't worry about it (I mean, how many miles are you getting out of $20-$30 in fuel?) and enjoy the savings.
     
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  4. Tw3nty

    Tw3nty Junior Member

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    I love this board. You guys are my hero. Let me know how I can help the board. You have already saved me a lot of money. Thanks
     
  5. qbee42

    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    Pay it forward. Next time someone asks about a Gen II gas tank, you can provide the answer.

    Tom