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Questions about hooking up inverter in car

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Accessories and Modifications' started by Wxboy73, Aug 25, 2011.

  1. Wxboy73

    Wxboy73 New Member

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    I have a 1500 watt modified sine wave inverter that I would like to hook up to the Prius to run a few household items during power outages and I'm hoping someone can help me answer some questions.

    1. How do I hook up the inverter to the battery? Normally I hook up the wires directly to a 12 volt battery with nothing else attached to it so I hook up to the terminals. In this case the battery is already connected to the car.

    2. Where can I buy a fuse to use for this setup other than Amazon or some online site? I would like to just be able to drive to a store to buy a fuse to get this up an running quickly.

    3. What do I risk if I don't use a fuse in my connection?
     
  2. V8Cobrakid

    V8Cobrakid Green Handyman

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    if you're inverter does not have a fuse, and you don't use one.. you risk burning up a lot of money in car parts if something does go wrong. my inverter has a fuse build in.

    always leave the car in ready mode when using your inverter (fully on and running)

    when sitting with radio on, the car burns about a gallon every 10 to 12 hours... if you are pulling a "full load".. around 900 to 1000 watts, then you'll burn a gallon every couple hours... i've seen it range from 1.5 to 3 hours.

    Hook it up directly to the battery. go to pepboys, or o'reilys... or.. any place like that and they should have an inline fuse you can buy.
     
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    i always leave the hood open.. it keeps everything a lot cooler... observed by the fans kicking on a lot less. if you can, keep the windows open so the battery can breath... if you're place isn't private enough to do this, you probably shouldn't be doing this at all (the car is on and all)
     
  4. Wxboy73

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    Thanks for the response V8Cobrakid. I guess I first have to figure out if my inverter has a fuse built in. Hopefully it does. It's a Cobra CPI 1575 inverter.

    I still can't picture how to connect the wiring to the battery since there are already wires hooked up to it from the car. Maybe I'll have to go home to pick up the Prius before I head to a car parts store so I can show them the battery setup and they can help me with connectors.
     
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    i think it's all built in. they don't recommend a fuse on your model. it has reverse polarity protection and low voltage shutoff.

    i've seen a few people use a quick connector so it's not always connected. a simple O ring connector on the stubs should work. in order to keep everything in the car from resetting from a power disconnect, i turn the car on before messing with the battery. it doesn't make the car freak out. don't turn the unit on if you do this, it will spark (more)
     
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    I hooked up the inverter to the battery today without any problems. I wasn't able to find the recommended fuse in any local auto parts store so I didn't use an external fuse. I wasn't sure where to connect the ground wire to the vehicle. Any ideas?

    I ran an extension cord to my refrigerator and ran it as a test. After a while I noticed the watts drawn shown on the inverter was lower than what I'm used to seeing and once I checked into it I found the voltage coming out of the inverter was 78-79 volts(using a volt meter). Last time I used the inverter it worked fine so now I don't know if it was a coincidence that it isn't working or if something happened today that caused this. Either way my test did not go well.

    As a side note I've run this refrigerator many times with the inverter and never had any problems. From what I remember the startup watts are in the 1,000 to 1,100 watt range for a short period of time and then it draws 170-190 watts when running.

    One more question. The local auto parts store carries 250 amp amg fuses instead of the recommended 250 amp anl fuses. Does anyone know if the amg would work in a pinch. In other words would it be better than not using a fuse?

    The manual states: We recommend a main fuse in the battery's positive cable to protect against DC wiring short circuits(external to the inverter) ... We recommend a Buss fuse ANL-250 or equivalent. The specific fuse amperage should be sized to allow operation of all your DC powered equipment.
     
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    i think your fridge pulled a peak that the car couldn't support. have someone plug it in while you sit in the car. see if the 12v bus line flips on and off (screen and everything in the car will blip)... if it does.. the motor startup is too much from the fridge.. everything clipped back on and tried to match load but it simply wan't enough juice.

    max really is around 1000 watts or so.

    i have a kill a watt meter... if it trips the kill a watt meter, it will trip your car.

    it may be more of a pain... but i would think sizing the fuse to your max real load is better than a short out load. i've had the car blip a lot since i've owned it (all my fault of course)... i don't know how healthy it is for the system. (~80 amps)
     
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