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A/F and O2 values for 2g Prius - Need help.

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by anthonylokrn, Sep 6, 2011.

  1. anthonylokrn

    anthonylokrn Member

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    Still a new to using the SG2, but the main purpose of the purchase was to diagnose my P0420 CEL.

    I purchased it with the intentions of reading the A/F sensor (pre-cat B1S1) and O2 sensor (post-cat B1S2) voltages to determine if the sensors were bad or if it was actually the cat.

    Using these XGauge codes for CANSF:

    O2 Sensor Data for CANSF vehicles:
    Gauge - Bank 1 - Sensor 1
    TXD - 07E00114
    RXF - 044145140000
    RXD - 2808
    MTH - 000100020000
    NO VALUE

    Gauge - Bank 1 - Sensor 2
    TXD - 07E00115
    RXF - 044145150000
    RXD - 2808
    MTH - 000100020000
    VALUE: ~0.7-0.85V

    Air to Fuel Ratio for CANSF vehicles:
    Gauge - A/F Ratio Bank 1 - Sensor 1
    TXD - 07DF0124
    RXF - 044145240000
    RXD - 2808
    MTH - 05B900800000
    VALUE: 18.0@0rpm and ~14.0-14.5 while engine is running.

    Since the SG can't read the voltage for the wideband a/f ratio sensor, how can I check whether the sensor is still good or not? Am I inputting the code incorrectly?

    Any help would be grateful.

    Thanks,
    Anthony
     
  2. vincent1449p

    vincent1449p Active Member

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    Hi Anthony,

    Not all XGauge codes for CANSF are applicable for Gen2. You may try this XGauge:

    Gauge - Bank 1 - Sensor 1
    TXD - 07E00124
    RXF - 044145240000
    RXD - 3010
    MTH - 001908000000
    Notes - Min.: 0 V, Max.: 7.999 V (Idling 2.8 V to 3.8 V in Inspection Mode)

    Although functional addressing (7DF) works in this case, you may consider changing it to physical addressing (7E0). In some cases, there are other ECU also using the same PID and may give incorrect responses if you use functional addressing. According to the Repair Manual, the Hand-Held Tester measure the A/F Ratio from 0 to 1.999.

    Gauge - A/F Ratio Bank 1 - Sensor 1
    TXD - 07E00124
    RXF - 044145240000
    RXD - 2808
    MTH - 07CF09F60000
    Notes - Min.: 0, Max.: 1.999

    Vincent
     
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  3. anthonylokrn

    anthonylokrn Member

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    Thanks for the awesome reply Vincent.

    I went ahead and used the codes you gave me, but I'm not really sure what the values mean.

    I set the Prius into inspection mode (1000rpm) and took a video of the SG2 display.

    Using code:
    Gauge - Bank 1 - Sensor 1
    TXD - 07E00124
    RXF - 044145240000
    RXD - 3010
    MTH - 001908000000
    Notes - Min.: 0 V, Max.: 7.999 V (Idling 2.8 V to 3.8 V in Inspection Mode)
    VALUE: All over the place.

    Using code:
    Gauge - A/F Ratio Bank 1 - Sensor 1
    TXD - 07E00124
    RXF - 044145240000
    RXD - 2808
    MTH - 07CF09F60000
    Notes - Min.: 0, Max.: 1.999
    VALUE: Pretty consistent @ ~1.0.

    Looking at the video:
    -Top left: Bank 1 - Sensor 1 (using your code)
    -Top right: Bank 1 - Sensor 2 (value in voltage)
    -Bottom left: A/F Ratio Bank 1 - Sensor 1 (using your code)
    -Bottom right: Inspection mode @ 1,000 RPM

    [ame="http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v728/anthongy817/?action=view&current=VID_20110906_225009.mp4"]VID_20110906_225009.mp4 video by anthongy817 - Photobucket[/ame]

    Thanks for all the help,
    Anthony
     
  4. vincent1449p

    vincent1449p Active Member

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    Hi Anthony,

    I can't access the video at my workplace. Anyway, here is a link to the RM for your P0420 code:

    http://hybrids.ru/PriusNHW20/rm/rm1076e/m_05_0139.pdf

    Vincent
     
  5. anthonylokrn

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    Thanks again Vincent.

    Based on the RM, I don't really understand how to conduct/interpret the "Active Test A/F Control" based on their "Case" chart.

    Looking at the "Voltage output when ”active air–fuel ratio control” is not performed", the waveform for the heated oxygen sensor after cat (B1S2) is good, but the waveform of the A/F sensor before cat (B1S1) is completely off.

    Chart shows normal voltage for B1S1 between 3.0-3.4V, my values fluctuates all over the charts between 0.91V to as high 7.63V.

    Since the waveform for B1S2 is consistent and no major fluctuation, it should mean that the catalytic converter is still good right?

    If you get a chance to take a look at the video that would be great, no rush at all.

    Many thanks,
    Anthony
     
  6. anthonylokrn

    anthonylokrn Member

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    Here's a better video now of the SG2 display and car in inspection mode.

    @idle(1000rpm): oxygen sensor post cat is steady at ~0.8V.
    @2500rpm: oxygen sensor post cat is steady between ~0.15-0.2V.

    AFR sensor (B1S1) is still fluctuating all over the place regardless of rpm speed.


    [ame="http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v728/anthongy817/?action=view&current=VID_20110907_121546.mp4"]VID_20110907_121546.mp4 video by anthongy817 - Photobucket[/ame]

    Thanks,
    Anthony

    **Sorry for all the trouble. I would just bring it into a dealer to fix, but funds are low, and I don't trust the smaller shops here with a hybrid.