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NOS for Prius

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Accessories & Modifications' started by ozarkretiree, Sep 9, 2011.

  1. ozarkretiree

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    Okay, I know this is crazy for a low emissions high mpg vehicle and especially for a 71 year old owner. Has anyone found any writings or had experience with a NOS kit for the Prius? Coming of age in the 50's left an indelible "go fast" urge. What a blast to be able to squirt some nitrous and alter the Prius image.

    I am up to 112,000 on my 2007 Touring package 6. All 100% trouble free except for the auto light leveling circuit getting wet but replaced by Toyota at no cost to me and now, rarely, an intermittent winking off of the driver side HID. I "fix" it by cycling the headlight switch.
     
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    I tried some hot rodding tricks on my '06, with decidedly mixed results. The car is so opposite of anything having to do with performance. Hop up one thing and suddenly you're faced with deficiencies in three others.

    It just doesn't want to go fast, and will fight you every step of the way.

    Heaven only knows if the driveline is up to it. I'd think a turbo would be a better choice; the power would come in more gently and whenever you need it, instead of that shot of nitrous.

    Also, I don't know if the Atkinson cycle might make nitrous a dicey proposition. I suspect you're going where no man has gone before.

    A quick search shows lots of universal fitments, but none for the Prius specifically.

    I'd buy another car that you can play with, and keep the Prius as is.
     
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    I can just see you blasting down the back country roads on a dark Moonless night, 127 MPH under full nitro, when both lights wink out.
     
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    By then a piston will have decided that it needs to liberate itself from the confinement of the engine block.
     
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    I would start off by not calling it NOS. NOS is a specific manufacturer and supplier of a system. So start calling it nitrous or nitrous oxide. :)

    That being said, even with nitrous the car would be extremely slow. In stock form the car is only good for a mid 17sec 1/4mile and even if it could handle the nitrous with the crazy compression ratio and effective compression it would still be slow. :)
     
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    I'm going to nickname my Prius "Bill Slowsky"...you know, from the comcast commercials. I mean, it does sorta have the turtle shell shape to it. As long as it's not zooming towards another driver trying to knock them off the road or anything (picture mario kart here) lol
     
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    I guess if you are looking to change this, nitrous would probably work as well as any other method. :madgrin:
     
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    Hehe. Perhaps better.

    If the OP wishes more performance, he should yank the entire driveline, drop in a smallblock V8 with rear wheel drive, and turn it into the ultimate sleeper. Now THAT would be fun.
     
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    Or just do suspension mods and go looking for curvy roads!
     
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    NOS ........ you mean Nitric oxide synthase?

    The stuff that Viagra and similar drugs modulate for better tumescence?

    Come to think of it, there IS a link between driving really fast and mucking with your NOS levels, isn't there
     
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    Wow this thread made me chuckle. Thanks OP!
     
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    it's told that basically there is nothing you can do that will make the car faster... only fill up the battery faster which will help assist you more... in a way it is faster as you may stay in the higher charged levels which will make a huge difference on mountain roads and such... but 0 to 60 won't change too much... it's a 10.something second car.. and i think the best you can do is 9 something since the acceleration past 40 something mph is made up by electric motors assisting the ICE.... if the electric motors were in a free spin the car would be a lot slower... and top out around that 40 something mark... it probably wouldn't even run (even if you magically made the computers do it without freaking out.. i simply don't think the ICE has enough power to spin everything and still accelerate decent.

    check out this link: Animated Hybrid System ... read... play.. expand your mind...
     
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    Hmm, you may be on to something here. Perhaps a portable genset in the luggage compartment, pouring juice into the HV battery?
     
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    I agree. It's still not a top contender in the twisties, but a lot more can be done to improve its handling performance, and the mods are lots less invasive.

    There's a reason it's called a Prickup.
     
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    2k1Toaster Brand New Prius Batteries

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    Easiest way to make a Prius go faster, is boost the DC-DC converter to a higher voltage. How do we know this? This is exactly what Toyota did when they broke the hybrid landspeed record.

    We know that the MG's can take a higher voltage through their coils. We can test the Toyota WS ATF for its dielectric properties. Add a tank of nitrogen not for burning, but for cooling. Pump liquid nitrogen directly over the custom made boosted boost converter to keep that sucker cool.
     
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    i think it's more about programming on the electrical side and overheating...

    if anyone is going to do mods.. or pull trailers... get a scan-gauge... (i am a hypocrite)
     
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    I am pretty sure the voltage of the MGs does not change. It stays at ~500v I believe. When it requires less power from them, it reduces its duty cycle. So if you told the car that the SOC was at 79% to get it to try and burn that excess battery energy by propulsion, it would give the MGs as high a duty cycle possible.

    Now to get more power than usual, you would make the voltage higher. This is also exactly what the Lexus CT does in "sport" mode. But I am suggesting you can boost the MGs to a much higher voltage. However you will be dealing with gigantic current swings through the transformers and IGBTs/FETs. These will get burning hot at high duty cycle high output voltage. So cooling them to something below 70C is a minimum requirement and you will need lots and lots of cooling that I don't think the stock inverter coolant fluid can handle, or you will need to liquid cool using some other heat transfer fluid. Nitrogen is cheap and easy to find, and there are cooling heatsinks already made to support them.
     
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    warp drive.
     
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    in order to break that land speed they put in a longer gear set for the psd or something like that. they had to use a tundra to get it up to a decent speed or else the pack wouldn't hit top end.

    2k1 toaster... i'm not disagreeing with you... simply stating the problems. the problem falls on the electrical end.

    there was one demo turbo prius by blitz turbo... it never made it way to an aftermarket part. there is one person on here who did it. (possibly more?)

    Pinto... i was just thinking about your DC dump idea. i went crazy with the idea and though, hey, why not use a generator? (not that i would ever do this, or anything similar) for humor... a prius is cruising along.. all of a sudden a generator kicks on with it's own little exhaust pipe... completely defeat the purpose of having a clean car. would be fun though...
     
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    hmmmmmmmmm......

    stuff an aluminum 427, 671 blower, add two stages of pro shot NOX, M-22's gear it in the 5's. full cage, narrowed 9".

    caption of this image...........NOT YOUR PARENTS PRIUS

    plate.....................low 8 et

    that would make a statement