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2008 Touring Wheel Question.

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by psycho_drama, Dec 16, 2011.

  1. psycho_drama

    psycho_drama New Member

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    From what I've been reading the 2008 Touring model should come with 16" wheels? I just bought one that was advertised as Touring and it seems to have 15" instead.

    Could it be a base with option 6 package? It has traction control, not stability control, JBL audio with 6 disc, leather seats, bluetooth, etc. etc.

    If there is an advertising error I want to go talk to them about it.

    Thanks.
     
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    Yes, definitely false advertising. For whatever reason, places think that they can pass off leather as Touring. Go talk to them. They can pull up the option package on the computer.
     
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  3. LIPriusFreak

    LIPriusFreak Can I haz JDM?

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    the touring package comes with the 16" wheels, HIDs and fogs standard....if your car doesn't have fogs or the 16" wheels you got sold a bag of goods
     
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    my car does have the FOGS.
     
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    LIPriusFreak Can I haz JDM?

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    look at your car from a side profile....is the wing on the rear trunklid bigger than normal?

    thats the only other tell tale sign...

    I think the touring even in "base" mode comes with a leather wrapped steering wheel as well but since u have the leather package, you should already have that
     
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    The previous owner probably changed out the 16" for 15" in order to improve FE. That can happen when purchasing used. Sin. # should tell you what your car was. Have the dealer give you a print out. Hal
     
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    yeah, perhaps. does the Touring model come with stability control standard? or just traction control? same thing perhaps?
     
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    Dealers being either ignorant (only some 8 or 10% of the Gen IIs
    are genuine OEM Touring models) or outright deceptive as to an
    authentic Touring model designation -- there was not a touring
    badge -- on a used Prius is all too common. Here's a thread with
    links to other threads on this:

    http://priuschat.com/forums/gen-ii-...dealer-misrepresented-base-model-touring.html

    Note that one of the linked threads identifies all the bits and pieces
    necessary to convert a Standard model to a Touring. It can be/has
    been done. The Touring rims, spoiler, and pretty much useless "driving
    lights" are pretty much cosmetic. The important stuff is suspension bits
    under the car: rear shocks and sway bars. Having these bits is almost
    as good as running the VIN for determining if the car is OEM Touring
    model.

    FWIW, I would agree that if the car is a Touring model -- which I
    doubt -- the previous owner may have switched out 16" for 15" wheels.

    But why? Two probable reasons:
    * to get a better selection of replacement tires -- a good idea
    * to get better FE, but this would be about 1% improvement --
    a bad idea
     
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    So I had a local dealer run the VIN and it turns out it is NOT Touring, just standard with option 6 package.

    I spoke with the dealer I bought it from and they are willing to work with me or take it back. What should I ask for in terms of price difference. I looked on KBB and NADA and they are all over the place. -$1000 off of what I paid fair?

    BTW, dealer that I bought the car from wasn't a Toyota dealer.
     
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    you can ask for the difference, maybe a free extended warranty or if you are truly happy with the car, just drive it and enjoy it!
     
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    I had this same issue when i bought my car. The dealer offered to take the car back, but I decided to just keep it. It's to much of a hassle to take the car back and then find another dealer with an actual touring model. I also found that there isn't much difference in the value of a base vs a touring model to the general public.

    Please keep in mind that I'm not likely to ever leave my car in its original state. I found that there were more options for aftermarket springs for the base model. My plan is to upgrade the springs and sway bars and eventually buy some 16"or 17" wheels and tires. I'm also planning to upgrade my lights to projector HID's.

    It's just a shame that a Toyota dealer knows less about there product than we do. Good luck with your purchase.
     
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    i think this person is new to the prius community so he won't be able to tell a larger spoiler just from looking at it.

    since 98% of prius is not touring, just park next to another prius and compare the spoilers, if your is about 2 inches longer than you have a touring that got the wheel/tires swapped. if your spoiler is the same size you got taken, buyer beware, car dealers are sort of crooked, used car dealers are extremely crooked, just a fact of life.
     
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    after all, I have decided to just keep it. I don't want the hassle of taking it back, taking my trade-in back, switching back insurance, etc. etc. etc. the touring package isn't all that important to me, option 6 package is great and I love the car.

    however, I feel less than satisfied with customer service I received. the sales guy I worked with was OK, he was willing to try and approach his manager and work something out. the sales manager however, was a total prick, an idiot of all idiots. another drone repeating sales scripts, another idiot unwilling to honor their motto "we love people" and sacrifice integrity for the sake of "being right". kept repeating "well, you could bring it back", which isn't really "working hard" to work towards customer satisfaction as they claim. yes, I could have taken it back. YES, he knew most people wouldn't because of the hassle, because of he had nothing to lose.

    I guess you "won" BEAVERTON KIA.

    Thanks for the insights, I really appreciated all of the comments.
     
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    You have a well appointed car and it should give you many years good performance. Won,t be shelling out big bucks for gas at least! Good luck, Hal
     
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    Before you decide to do nothing, you should drive a real touring model and compare it to the standard. The suspension differences are very significant.
     
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    I disagree. IMO, the Touring and standard Prius suspension both suck. For me, Touring was mostly a waste of money since I upgraded the springs and rear sway bar anyway.

    I bought the Touring cause thats the only one that was on the lot, and I liked the color. I simply didn't know any better. However, I do like the bigger spoiler and 16" gunmetal rims, which I have yet to replace. But most of the time, these "special" models usually aren't worth the extra cash. It's the same thing for Lexus w/ F-Sport suspension/parts. I would just upgrade everything myself. Doing it yourself usually comes out cheaper, with more and better options.
     
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    agreed but sometimes the factory "sport upgrade" is just enough for some while full blown aftermarket sport kits become a bit overbearing...


    Case in point- When I had my 2000 Lexus GS400 I was all about getting every L-Tuned factory upgrade possible...why? because the aftermarket just ruined the luxury of the car.....I wanted the L-tuned suspension so bad but was impossible to source (the company went defunct in 2003 or so I forget)The drop on that was maybe an inch.

    I went full blown and bought eibach springs with bilstein HD struts...BIG MISTAKE! the car went from luxo-boat to full blown race car in 3 hours. The car drove like complete shit yet had a very aggressive stance. For me the L-tuned factory upgrade meant a slight drop with still some semblance of comfort.

    I am willing to bet the touring suspension is more comfy than a set of Greddy or Tanabe lowering springs even though the touring suspension is no lower than a base prius suspension

    I hope you're getting my point here lol