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Owners Manual for PIP is out

Discussion in 'Gen 1 Prius Plug-in 2012-2015' started by PRPrius, Feb 12, 2012.

  1. john1701a

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    Won't bother me. Super-HV mode should still be available, which would include the usual reduced power engine-off driving (stealth mode) besides boosted MPG.
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    The 2nd and 3rd gen Prius has the intake for cooling the battery on the right side. I know they have the intake on the right side in the back seat.
    Here's the 2nd gen and 3rd gen batteries.
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    One annoying side effect of not having a place for the spare and them supplying sealant is that if you use it, it seems like you need to replace the TPMS sensor. :(

    For me, if the leak were small enough, I'd just overinflate the tire a bit, drive a bit, inflate and repeat...
     
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    Yes it does. Taxi cabs have reported that it gets clogged sometimes due to accumulated dust caused by the frequent in and out of passengers. This is recommended as something that should on occasion be checked for dust accumulation to prevent overheating and in turn decreased longevity of the traction battery.
     
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    They state a numerical value for too cold but how hot is too hot?
     
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    Here's the the Quick Guide and Owner's Manual split out separately. I didn't go completely through usbmattiphone's version, but at a glance I noticed it was missing pages 1 and 22-29 in the Owner's Manual.

    Quick Guide

    Owner's Manual:
    Missing pages from Toyota's website: 2-21, 30-31, 668-679
    Missing pages due to section breaks?: 223, 357, 423, 523, 609, 649, 665

    Warranty and Maintenance Guide

    Display Audio with Navigation Owner's Manual:
    Missing pages from Toyota's website: 6-9, 18-19, 98-99
    Missing pages due to section breaks?: 1, 73, 153, 185, 189, 195, 213

    Display Audio without Navigation Owner's Manual:
    Missing pages from Toyota's website: 5-7, 12-13
    Missing pages due to section breaks?: 1, 67, 85, 91, 119
    Note: Not applicable to existing Standard or Advanced Trims.

    Premium HDD Navigation Owner's Manual:
    Missing pages from Toyota's website: 6-9, 56-57, 190-191, 323-329
    Missing pages due to section breaks?: 1, 25, 131, 269, 283, 305, 317

    I don't understand why Toyota splits it into so many small sections. It's really annoying.

    2/19/2012: Updated with Display Audio Owner's Manuals
    2/25/2012: Updated with Warranty and Maintenance Guide and Premium HDD Navigation Owner's Manual. Added download links.
    2/26/2012: Cropped extra white space on margins from Quick Guide and Premium HDD Navigation Owner's Manual.
    4/2/2012: Fixed page numbering and added bookmarks for chapters/sections/subsections for Quick Guide, Owner's Manual, and Premium HDD Navigation Owner's Manual.
    9/4/2012: Removed obsolete references to attachments.
     
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    You may want to look into getting and learning to use a tire plug kit. They're actually really easy to use and fairly durable. In fact, I can remember back in the day when thats how tire shops plugged tires. Nowadays they refer to the plug as temporary and the permanent solution now involves dismounting the tire and applying a patch on the inside as well.

    In any case, a plug kit and and air compressor could solve many tire issues as long as its not on the sidewall. But I'd definitely plug before using the liquid crap and messing up the TPMS.

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    I suspect it's b/c it's not solely based upon ambient temp like the cold side is. the impact of radiant heat/green house effect increasing the battery temp (and inverter?) would be magnified by the use of sun shade, if windows are cracked, how long in the heat, how high and bright the sun, etc.

    I'm sure that the technical information (not the owner's manual) has some limit for the various temp limits for the battery itself, but since the driver can't measure that (without a scan gauge or something) then it's not really relevant to the average owner.
     
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    Seems odd to me that the charge port is not locked. I'm imagining some pranksters griefing PHEV drivers by opening the charge port when they are stopped at a light and plugging in a dummy EVSE plug preventing the driver from driving off...

    Remember to coil your charging cable folks, or someone could die! =P

    Is the left rear seat cushion vent new to the Prius Plug-in or is it also in the Liftback? I don't think there was one on the Gen 2.
     
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    Heh... I'm not planning to order/buy a PiP, for now.

    I probably won't look to replace my Prius until the 4th gen comes out, whenever that is. At that point, I'm still not sure I'd go for a PiP, partly because of cost.
    I'd be more concerned that someone might vandalize the port, judging by the amount of ridiculous Prius hate based upon misinformation along w/some EV hate.
     
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    I have a dim recollection of someone asking about battery replacement. I've been leafing through the 2012 PHV fsm. There are codes, and replacement procedures, for the four individual sub-assemblies. Replacing an entire pack does not appear to be standard operating procedure. Now all we need is pricing for sub-assemblies. And surely the following line will trigger a call to tech support:

    Before installing a new hybrid vehicle supply stack sub-assembly, the voltage should be adjusted to the appropriate value.
     
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    Too bad the warranty booklet is separate I have been wanting to know what they did. :(

     
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    In any place of this pdf files is pointing to the real voltage of the additional Lithium PiP voltage?
     
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    It's written on page 614...
     
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    Also in the Dismantling Guide.
     
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    From P. 614

    Hybrid battery (traction battery)
    Type Lithium-ion battery
    Voltage 3.7 V/cell
    Capacity 21.5 Ah
    Quantity 56 cells
    Overall voltage 207 V
     
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    Notice about fuel

    For plug-in hybrid vehicles, fuel may remain in the tank for a long time and undergo changes in quality depending on the how the vehicle is used. Refuel at least 5.3 gal.(20 L, 4.4 lmp.gal.) of fuel every 6 months (refuel a total of at least 5.3 gal. [20 L, 4.4 Imp.gal.] over a 6-month period), as this may affect components of the fuel system or the gasoline engine.
     
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    Plug-in hybrid system control

    The plug-in hybrid system features both EV mode and HV mode, which are switched automatically. When a sufficient amount of electricity is remaining in the hybrid battery (traction battery) the vehicle can be driven as an electric vehicle in EV mode; and when only a little electricity is remaining in the hybrid battery (traction battery), HV mode is automatically selected and the vehicle can be used in the same manner as a hybrid vehicle.

    EV/HV mode selection switch

    You can manually switch between EV mode and HV mode when you want to conserve battery power in preparation for EV driving in city areas.

    Switching to HV mode when driving on a highway or when driving uphill is recommended in order to conserve battery power*.

    *: The EV driving range may reduce even after switching to HV mode.

    Using EV mode and HV mode effectively

    Primarily using EV mode when driving in cities and using HV mode when driving on highways (or freeways) can help conserve fuel and electricity.

    Highway driving

    Electricity consumption will increase substantially when driving at high speeds in EV mode. If there will be a long distance to the next external charging point after leaving a freeway, driving in HV mode while on the freeway and in EV mode after leaving the freeway is recommended.
     
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    I'll be interested to hear when and how much EV range declines in HV mode. It does seem they intend to generally preserve SoC in HV for use when driver desires. This is a great use of limited electrification. Not absolute, and I would not expect that.