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Less Excitement for PiP?

Discussion in 'Gen 1 Prius Plug-in 2012-2015' started by The Electric Me, Feb 15, 2012.

  1. The Electric Me

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    I discovered Prius Chat, and Hybrids in general several months before the release of the 3rd Generation Prius and The "New" Honda Insight.

    The build up to the release of both vehicles was amazing. Especially in Prius Chat there was a real "Electricity" with people presenting every scrap of information, advertising, and speculation as to what the 3rd Generation Prius was going to be like.

    I remember a real shark like competition among members to be the first or among the first to own a 3rd Gen.

    Is it my imagination or do I just not quite feel the same excitement over the Plug In Prius? I know it's more expensive, and perhaps has a more specified audience.

    The Plug in Prius is realistically probably out of my price range, as well as I don't have a garage, so it's not a product I'm seriously considering. BUT...if I had the garage and the money? I'd be drooling over it's release.

    Maybe I'm just jumping the gun? Perhaps as we get closer to the actual release, the excitement will build.

    Or perhaps I just happened to discover Prius Chat during a very dynamic time? The release of the 3rd Generation had this place hopping.
     
  2. JimboPalmer

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    I very deliberately chose to buy the last Gen2 Prius rather than the first Gen 3 Prius, as I wanted to know that Toyota had 5 years to work out bugs.

    PiP does not offer me much as I always drive at least 50 miles each way, never to the same location, it is a big win for drivers who sometimes have under 7 mile trips, or can charge at work.

    When I am forced to buy a new car, I hope to get a Prius v with all the bells and whistles, perhaps it will be PiP as well by then. A 2029 Prius v with 240 v charging is a future I can dream of. It is possible charging stations will be widespread.

    I would think that v, c, and PiP within 6 months makes this a exciting time.
     
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    it's probably more like the gen I prius build up.
     
  4. Paradox

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    Well I know I am excited! I think the biggest reason for not seeing as much excitement is two-fold. One, it's a niche car so not everyone is excited about it. Those who are getting one, yes, we are. And maybe other Enthusiasts but not everyone. Two, when the Gen III came out, it was a redesign, a whole new Prius. So ALL Prius enthusiasts were posting about it. So yeah, there is excitement, but definitely not like the rollout of the Gen III. That's at least my take on it.
     
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    I was not particularly excited about the Gen III Prius. Once upon a time I expected to trade mine in for the next major model revision. But the Gen III offered too little that was new, and too small an improvement in efficiency. I think the PiP is a great idea, but with its very short EV range, I would not have considered it. (Both Gen III and PiP are moot for me now that I drive the Roadster: The Prius is rarely used, and mostly for road trips.)
     
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    That's called effective expectation management. In other words, the underwhelming outcome of Volt following such extreme hype has caused people to wait, rather than allowing anticipation to build upon uncertainty.

    Look at all the rhetoric already. PHV is causing quite a stir on the other side, even if you aren't seeing it here.

    The excitement will grow later, from real-world data. It will resemble what happened with the Classic model. We're basically starting with a fresh perspective, not knowing what to expect beyond the reputation for reliability.
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    Hey, I'm excited to get mine...
     
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    Geographically limited rollout (I cannot get excited until 2013).
    Bigger deal for short commuters like me, where liftback has had greatest benefit to high mileage users.
     
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    I don't recall the PC excitement leading up to late May 2009, because I was deep into the first 2nd gen seat mod project. I had just purchased the used 2006 Prius driver's seat about 60 miles N of here and spent 2 weeks after work fashioning extender braces and having mounts rewelded so it could slide back a couple extra inches.

    .... However, the first day the 3rd gen arrived at Piercey, I was down there and test drove the car the first day. Before even sitting in the car, (I finished seat mod 1 day after this) I measured the brake pedal to back of seat distance. Weird, but I was just so focused on that. Was also just drooling over a seat height adjuster in a Prius.... first time ever in the US. On that test drive I really enjoyed the much greater seat (to me), but I did soon notice the wheel telescope didn't quite match the newfound legroom ... it's 'just enough' for it all to work and just enough is enough.
     
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    Just wanted to say .... wait until the 4th gen liftback is introduced (hopefully) in just over 3 years ... wow, that should be huge. I'm thinking (hoping) that Prius should really start to 'gel'. But you never really know. We'll have pics of it 5 months prior most likely.


    btw, I was talking to a 73 y/o gentlemen whose daughters went to my HS (oh couple year ago :) .... was sitting in my 3rd gen. Never met him before. ...

    He started asking questions as the engine chimed on (was powered on, in park) ... is that kind of an electric car? Don't you have to plug it in?

    He seemed fairly intrigued by it and listened to my descriptions of it. Nice man.
     
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    Now, we won't be saying "No, I don't HAVE to plug it in", we will be saying "No, I WANT to plug it in!"
     
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    This is my take on it.

    When the Gen3 came out, everyone in every state could look forward to getting one. I, on the other hand, can't really get excited about a car that's not being released in my state. I'm planning on getting one, eventually, but just not in the first year. Maybe two.

    As for the length of the drive, I'm not overly concerned that my one-way commute exceeds the EV range. I'll take all the gas-free driving I can get. Especially eliminating the wasteful and sometimes unavoidable short trips and errands around town. Technically, I'm a perfect Leaf or Volt candidate but I have come to love the Prius form factor.
     
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    When I got my 2004 Prius people asked "Do you have to plug it in?" When I got my electric Zap Xebra people asked "Does it have an engine?" Now, with the Tesla, people just say "Wow!" And when the Model S comes out, people are going to be speechless. (I'm not on the list for an S because I just don't need it.)
     
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    "Less Excitement for PiP?" No
     
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    ..........$40,000.00 is A LOT of $$......

    nuff said!
     
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    $29,500 after federal tax credit for Prius Plug-in base plus taxes etc. That's far below $40k bshef.

    Not saying even that is not alot of money, but it's not $40k.
     
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    EDIT ALERT....
    Let me excuse myself for being a bit of a wet-blanket about this....
    ....Right now ....I'm "glass-half-empty" only because my finances won't really allow for such a large purchase.
    AND...I still have my '05 thats 100% still going strong and serves me well.
    I faithfully LOVE prius technology and would be ALL-OVER A pip if my financial stars were in alignment....but the times being what they are for a big segment of us right now......it just ain't happening!

    yes...$29.5k is FAR BELOW $40,000.00.....
    are you a salesman?
    you're saying you leave your dealership only paying $29,500?

    My real-world price quote was closer to $40,000 for the base model.
    $32,000 base price plus the dealer mark-up ($$) plus Doc fees, registration, excise tax, fees,etc...etc...Which brings the total cost (at closing of the deal) just shy of $40,000.00!

    yes....you GET $2500 tax credit a year later!
     
  18. Paradox

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    Are you kidding me, me a salesman? lol

    There were dealerships on here selling the car $500 below msrp, so $31,500. $700 delivery (around here) - $32,200. Tax = $35,100. Even with DMV and dealership fees here around the city which I have seen people say is higher than many other states lets say it is $36,000. That's still $4k less than $40,000 not just shy of. Then yes, a whole year later, you get back $2500 making it $33,500.

    Nonetheless, even if it was $40k for you at your dealership of choice, and that's your reason for not being excited about it and I've got no problem with that.....
     
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    There's your problem right there
     
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    I drive 90 miles a day roundtrip on one of the most congested freeways in America, and in a few months, I'll be able to make 90% of that drive in the commuter lane.

    I can single-handedly convey enough excitement for the PiP. If only I knew the build date!