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Prius on highway - a bit of disappointment

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by bear4, Feb 18, 2012.

  1. bear4

    bear4 Junior Member

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    I had my 2011 for over 2 months now, and I am pretty happy with it. Driving 20 miles to work every day at speeds 45 - 55 mph, I rarely got less than 55 mpg; but today I really had a chance for a relatively long highway drive - about 100 miles at speeds 75 - 77 mph. I was disappointed to see that my average was only 48 mpg for this trip. Has anyone see such significant milage drop as you drove 75 mph and above?

    Additionally, the road noise at speeds above 70 mph is excessive to the point that people on the back seat could not hear me so I had to raise my voice. I believe most of the noise was caused by tires, but I was hoping that 25K car would have better sound proofing... In fact, my wife's 2010 corolla for $15K is quieter at this speed! Obviously, we cannot get more than 38 mpg in corolla driving over 75 mph, but the noise level in Prius was too much, way too much. I wonder if there is a solution for this noise. Perhaps better quieter tires? I had to replace brand new oem tires though. Anyway, the prius drove well otherwise, it was very stable and solid at this speed, but milage and noise level really surprised me.
     
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    I've noticed variations in the road surface create a wide range of noise levels. I test-drove a Corolla before I bought my 2011 Gen III and the Prius was much quieter than either the Corolla or any of my old vehicles.

    Asphalt vs. concrete -- it can make a big difference.

    Changing the tires may help, or you may want to double-check the tire pressure -- some have reported that running at 42/41 may reduce friction and thus reduce noise.
     
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    Nobody gets 50+ mpg at 75mph, the wind resistance at that speed eats into gas mileage, want better gas mileage, slow down.
     
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    I agree, prius is much quieter than corolla at speeds below 60 mph. Once I go above 60, it becomes very loud compared to corolla.

    When I was shopping for a new car, I test drove a 2011 prius and 2012 camry one after another, and the camry was way quieter at 75 mph. Almost bought 2012 camry, it was cheaper too, but finally ended up with a prius - due to milage and technology. I do not regret it at all except driving at 75 mph.

    I keep tire pressure at factory recommended numbers - if I go over, the ride gets too bouncy for me
     
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    I had the same issue I just spent the day sound deadening the doors and rear floor area.
    with a I phone decibel meter before I did any thing I drove a 10 mile loop around my house the meter would hover around 76 to 79 with a peak of 88 a rough patch of asphalt.
    after the work the meter was reading 64 to 72 with a peak of 80. I plan on taking a look at the front under the carpet and kick panels tomorrow I believe thats where a lot of the road noise is from mainly around the wheel arches.
     
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    In my area people are driving 75 -85 mph on highway and slowing down to 70 makes everyone mad, granted, I don't have to drive on highway every day, most of my daily route is on county roads, but once in a while we take long road trips and would love to take prius on these trips due to milage, but the road noise is just too much...
     
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    Once you get over 65 mph, the aerodynamics of the Prius itself loses efficiency due to the excessive wind resistance, and fuel efficiency starts dropping dramatically. Of course, this happens to all vehicles, so imagine how bad it drops off for other vehicles?

    As far as sound dampening, the Prius does seem to be a bit light weight in order to gain maximum fuel efficiency, so I figured the excessive noise was down to that.
     
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    which material did you use? I used dynamat on my 2003 echo couple of years ago, did the trunk, all doors and rear half of the floor. The difference was there, but it was not huge...
     
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    51 City, 48 highway, 50 combined...

    Sounds to me like your Prius is doing just fine.
     
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    If you are getting 48 MPG at 75 MPH you need to share the secret. :) I usually get less than 45 at that speed. At 65 or 70 I may get 46 to 48 on a good day.

    I think the EPA runs their highway test at 66 MPH equivalent. But they don't actually go out and drive the car at 66 MPH and check the mileage, they run it on a dyno following a computer program and factor in the CD to account for wind resistance. Their numbers are good only for comparison.

    I have had 3 sets of tires on my 2010 and I noticed no difference in noise, it was noisy with all three. I think the only way to reduce noise is, as mentioned above, to use sound isolation. The Prius is just a hollow "tin can" with little or no sound deadening material.
     
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    At 75 mph, a lot of the noise is caused by the low rolling resistance tires. If you get a set of tires designed for higher speed, the noise level should be reduced somewhat, but so will your MPG.

    If you want to keep the Prius, then cruise at 65 mph.
    If you want to cruise at higher speed, buy a different automobile.

    Whether you keep the Prius of trade it in for another vehicle, at 75 mph, wind resistance becomes a significant factor and you will get lower MPG.

    Suck it up, and quit whining.
     
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    2011 prius is EPA rated: 48 highway!
     
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    I used rammat it is like dynamat but much cheaper he also sells the self stick foam to put over it. it makes the car feel more solid and now when you shut the doors they sound like a lexus not a can with a rock inside.
     
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    I am a lead foot and drive both highway and city. I only get 42 to 49 mpg on a tank. There is no other car in the world that I can afford that will get me that high milage with my driving habits. And one cant expect great milage going fast, stopping and starting, or living among hills. Which makes me believe that the Prius is a great all around car and works out for all types of drivers. But I still have a pickup to do the hauling and run errands.
     
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    From http://priuschat.com/forums/other-c...uth-about-epa-city-highway-mpg-estimates.html that I posted earlier, the highest average speed on any of the EPA test cycles is only 48.4 mph.
     
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    Thats great information! Very good article. Thank you cwerdna!

    Gives great insight into the science and how science and reality rarely ever meet.

    I understand standardized testing, but they should at least take one for a drive. :eek:
     
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    After having this car for just about a month -- and 1300 miles ........

    If I had a high speed commute ...I don't think this would be the car I would want ... especially over rough or concrete roads ....maybe a leased VW TDI that went back when the warranty was up.

    But for mixed driving -- this car really shines ..... And on newish asphalt highways .. the car is pretty good.

    My SUV get around 14MPG and my Sedan maybe 15MPG -- so 47MPG is quite amazing ...and it takes regular.
     
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    I had the same complaint with the Yokohama Avid S33D tires that came on my 2010. I feel like the Michelin Energy Saver A/S tires are a bit quieter, especially at higher speeds. As someone else noted, road surface makes a huge difference. Typically, concrete results in a louder ride, and fresh, new asphalt is going to be your quietest.

    I, too, would like to have a bit more insulation or sound deadening material in the car, but I don't find it to be noticably worse than any other car I owned, except maybe the Nissan Maxima.
     
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    I always use PWR mode on the highway but I'm happy with 40+ this car rolls nice at 75-80! Noise could be tires? Good luck.