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Wavy rear tires... second set.

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by B. Roberts, Jan 22, 2010.

  1. milkman44

    milkman44 Active Member

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    After reading all the thread and then seeing the pics, if it has been aligned already, I would go with new shocks, would be a cheap fix if it works.
     
  2. B. Roberts

    B. Roberts Hypah Milah! Ayuh.

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    I have to call Toyota on Monday. That's what the dealer wants me to do next. It will be the third communication with Toyota. First one was to get someone to seriously look at the car and the problem. The second was a call back from them for clarification and to instruct me to take it to the dealer and have them look at it again.

    After all that, we were supposed to have the car looked at by a "regional tech", but that hasn't happened. On Friday we got a call from the dealership, asking us to call Toyota again. So Monday morning I will call and see what's up.

    At minimum, after the call and whatever Toyota decides to do or not do, I will take the car in to have all shocks replaced, rear bushings replaced and have a complete alignment again. I hope I can get them to examine all the rear suspension bits at that time, to make sure there is no damage or defect. Replacing the hubs would be around $850 or more, and unless Toyota agrees to absorb some of that cost, I probably won't have it done.

    At that point, I'll buy one more set of new tires and go from there. If the rears start to ripple up again like all the other sets of tires have done so far, I'll probably give up and trade it in. I won't be able to justify another 5 sets of tires for it, since it's not quite through to the half way mileage point we were aiming at yet. This is a Toyota, and we had intended to keep it at least well into the 200,000 to 250,000 mile mark. I normally sell my cars and then buy a new one, but if this one isn't fixed properly, I wouldn't want to pawn it off on someone else.

    We'll see what Toyota says on Monday and then take it from there.
     
  3. edthefox5

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    Now that you have posted pics it sure looks like they have all been really under inflated. That's the only way the edges can be super worn but the insides look pretty good.

    You say that they are not under inflated so I am stymied. But they all look really beat up so something really bad is going on back there.

    Please let us know what you find.
     
  4. B. Roberts

    B. Roberts Hypah Milah! Ayuh.

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    The tire pressure I maintained on this car was 39-40 front and 37-39 rear. All the sets of tires we put on this Prius ended up looking pretty much like the pictures, but rear only. And all during this time, the car tracked as straight as a 2nd Gen Prius could!


    End of the saga... Toyota Customer Service and Dealer were stuck in an endless back and forth, with what appeared to be a long stalling strategy. It seemed that no one could come up with an answer or decision on what to do about the problem, so I capitulated.

    We decided to trade the car in on a Gen III and try our luck again. I wish I could have kept our Gen II, but that whole fiasco was dragging out and I finally lost patience. They were probably counting on that anyway!

    Other than the eating of the rear tires, the car was a very good performer. It got over 49 MPG on it's last trip (moderately cold temperatures and head wind), and was still immaculate inside and out. That immaculate part they liked, but I hope that they investigate and fix the problem before they decide to sell it. They said they would.

    Thanks to all that pitched in to help figure out what was causing this rear tire wear. It was perplexing, to say the least, but it did start within a few thousand miles from new on the original tires. I still check all tires on a frequent schedule, since I really don't like under inflation... it robs fuel efficiency.

    Again, thanks. Just hope this new car will behave. It was one of the last 2011's around for sale in our region. Wife found it and picked it out. We'll see how this goes!
     
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    Cool. I don't blame you for the trade in dealing with never ending issues is realy irritating.

    Good luck with the new car.
     
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    JimN Let the games begin!

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    The dealer isn't going to fix anything. They'll detail the car & spritz it with "new car smell".

    Top off the tires on the new one & best wishes for many happy years together.
     
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    B. Roberts Hypah Milah! Ayuh.

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    Thanks! The '05 Prius that I left at the dealer was cleaner inside and out, than the new car we pulled out in. They brought everyone out to look at our old car and then the manager offered me a detailing job. My wife thought that was pretty funny!

    Found the new tires at 32-33 PSI in front and 30 PSI rear the next morning after purchase. I inflated to 40 PSI up front and 38 rear. We'll see how it goes.

    The '11 drives a lot better than the '05. The steering is weighted much better and feels more natural... a little less boost perhaps? Seems like they figured out the electric steering pretty nicely. It tracks extremely well.

    Interior is a quantum leap up the ladder in ergonomics over our Gen II. Love the console. Everything falls to hand very nicely. Absolutely brilliant interior. Now if they would just put some soft touch materials on the dash and doors! Can't have everything.

    So far, so good! :)
     
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    Yes I hate the steering feel on my 07. Zero dead band & constantly hunting on the road. Very very tight. Can never relax at the wheel.

    That and the seat ergo sucks but other than that has been a very good car.
     
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    For those looking at this old thread the problem is broken rear struts(s). The car is bouncing up, landing on the tire and creating the diagonal flat spots. The more miles deeper the flat spots, louder and rougher the car rides. Hope this helps.
     
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    By the way the shop foreman at ron hibbard toyota scolded me for running the tires low pressure. Two techs looked at it, they got the boss and they all agreed low pressure. What a joke. Replace the struts. Be sure to order quick struts, not worth the savings to rebuild the old ones with s cheaper kit. Imo.