Common Ground with others on 'hate' sites

I went to the Powerstroke diesel site when they were being idiots here, they were VERY much more reluctant to be idiots on their home turf.

I favor the ability to be anonymous on the internet, but it also allows idiots to troll others. Don't be that guy, come with facts and logic, and a huge helping of humility.

 

What do I think?

Do it if it's a Windmill inwich you enjoy attacking.

But I have a lot of Anti-Hybrid friends and IMO the level of dellusion and misinformation and just genetic, " I don't care what the "facts" are....I Likes my Gas Guzzler"...is pretty insurmountable.

I've spent minutes, hours, and possibly days illuminating just about every misnomer or fallacy about Hybrids and Prius, and even when TOTALLY cornered....it doesn't change the hard core idiots mind.

I remember spending a good 1/2 hour shooting down a friends supposed "facts" about why I shouldn't buy a Prius. When I had dispatched every mistaken "fact" he thought he knew about Prius? His final response was "Well maybe Hybrids would be good someday, but they just weren't ready "yet"."...

If you find entertainment in the debate? And I legitimately think that is valid, then debate away.....

I suspect converts will be "rare". I don't think there is anything I can say, that will trump gas at $4.50-$5.00 a gallon.

We reach those stages...and even my most stubborn friends start to realize that "Maybe" Hybrids are "Ready".

 

Does it really matter what anonymous posters write on the internet?

I've only had my Prius a short time- but the interactions I've had with real flesh and blood humans involving the Prius have been positive so far. If nothing else they seem to border on Prius envy, not hatred.

Nice thing about the internet is- you can turn it off! It would be a different matter if you got hate from real folks at gas stations, supermarkets, 7-11's, etc, but I've only seen the opposite so far (PS- not counting the road worrier/tailgater types who seem to hate everyone who's on "their" road).

 

I loved loved loved my Duramax diesel truck! It's truly a great machine, and the diesel is SO much better than the standard gas Silverado. Powerstrokes are.. well, they're ok too.

What changed my mind was that my own driving habits changed. I went from 8,000 miles a year to 15-18,000. At the same time, fuel prices increased, and we all know they're going higher. Plus, my fiance is a new, inexperienced driver and we're now going into the city and all the smaller, tight parking spots.
All of this, coupled with the fact that the diesels are EXTEREMELY expensive to work on if something happens (but they're pretty reliable), made my decision relatively easy.

But hate? I just don't get it. I guess some truck guys see their vehicles not as tools, but as extensions.

What will change their minds? When too many $100 bills start flying out of their wallets, they might come around a little.

 

I dont profess to know everything about the vehicle I drive, but I do like to keep myself informed and educate myself. While I will never make an attempt to drive someone to see things my way about my vehicle/personal electronics preference/favorite authors/political affiliation/chewing gum flavor, I will absolutely steer completely clear from a conversation, monologue or soliloquy by someone trying to convert my way of thought/beliefs/choice to a way of thought/belief/choice of their own.

Dont try to sell me on what you believe in, and I wont do the same to you.

 

Just remember, "You can't teach a pig to whistle, all you wind up doing is
pissing off the pig." Enough said.....

 

I work with a hater. He always brings Prius-gay jokes, talks non-american cars, how he would never spend money on non-american product, etc, etc.

Talking about how many non-american cars made in US and how Dodge and GM make cars out of the country (Canada, Mexico, etc) had no effect. One day after getting tired from "I'd never send my paycheck money out of country" we had a following conversation:

me: "well with gas prices you spend more money on gas then on car purchase.. and every time you buy gas you're sending your paycheck to terrorists".

He: "you also need gas so you also support terrorists"

me: "I might support a terrorist but with 58MPG I spend less then 160$/mo. It may keep one terrorist from dying. You on other hand driving your 14MPG truck 90mi a day and support him, his camel and 72 virgins they get when they blow you up."

He's been quiet for a few weeks now.

PS ask TonyPSchaefer to move it to Fred's house of pancakes

 

Do nothing. I offer my opinion on this car to those willing to listen. I was partially responsible for a co-worker getting one and have convinced another friend about its merits such that he really wants a Prius on his next car. But, I roll with the gay jokes and all that; they don't bother me at all.

 

JD Powers says:
Prius is the most reliable Compact car sold in America -- Five years in a row.

Hummer H1: Least reliable car sold in America (when it was sold, that is)

 

So "Charlottes Web" lied?

So I suppose Spiders don't sing and study literature?

 

If it's on their home turf, let them have their fun. Doesn't affect me one way or another. If they come here, I make fun of them, then I ignore them until they get banned or get bored and leave, whichever comes first.

 

If any diesel owner has sincere hybrid questions they will seek out a forum like this one to ask them.

 

Self-hate: Choosing to drive a vehicle that costs four times at the pump what a Prius does simply to validate themselves.

 

What? There are more people who are wrong on the internet, not just here? Ohhh, this is going to take forever.

 

Here is common ground: Molikai Hawaii

 

Why in the world would you care what others think about the car you drive?

 

If you dig it, do it! I'm not going to, because I already spend too much time here.

I keep hearing about Prius haters. I've never encountered one. In the early days I got a lot of legitimate questions about the car, usually followed by, "Wow, that's pretty cool." That was back when "Do you have to plug it in?" was a legitimate question because people really didn't know. Lots of "How do you like it?"

Now the car is so mainstream that they're all over the place, and to the public it's just a car that burns less gas.